Awakening for 3rd world citizens

[momo]

@Leo Gura I'm convinced that the best path for enlightenement is psychedelics, hower 99% of people in my country and many other 3rd world countries never even heard about them (they only know weed and other hard drugs). I'm not talking about all 3rd world countries but the majority of them espacially muslim countries. There is no access to these stuff what so ever. So basically if you're in a third world country you're destined to not be awake and all what you can do is meditate which has no significant effect against psychedelics ? What do you think ?

[Schizophonia]

It's very false, i know plenty of people who remained terribly neurotic despite lots of psychedelics.

In fact overly stimulating psychedelics make you delusional, the last time I took LSD I told myself that I was like a messi and that I was going to create a local supremacist group.
Like I was like "yes of course! I have to get together with my brothers" and I was imagining myself dancing around the fire with the guys from my area and telling myself that it was very important.

In fact, 98% of thoughts on psychedelics/weed are pure bullshit, bogus "conceptual thoughts" that make no sense but which you think are important/intelligent in the heat of emotion and "high".

“hummm but of couuuuuurse, consciousness is the snake that is dying its taillllllll”

"“we are all playing a rooooooole ummmm”      drooling on the bed*

Lmao.

 

The state where you are most rational is sober (apart from neurotic loops).

They're just some psychotropic drugs, not a gift from the gods lol.

Edited October 12, 2023 by Schizophonia

[Yimpa]

@Schizophonia Taking psychedelics without a proper foundation is like handing a gun to a baby.

[Schizophonia]

9 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

@Schizophonia Taking psychedelics without a proper foundation is like handing a gun to a baby.

What are “proper foundations”? ?

[Osaid]

You're asking the wrong person. Psychedelics don't give you enlightenment. Leo doesn't even believe enlightenment exists anymore. 

Not that psychedelics can't be useful, but they aren't really necessary, and they can actually become a massive distraction if "used for Truth." It's good for opening someone's mind if they are especially stubborn, maybe.

Edited October 12, 2023 by Osaid

[Yimpa]

@Osaid Everyone has their own ideas of what it is. I try not to take it personally, although easier said than done.

[Osaid]

15 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

@Osaid Everyone has their own ideas of what it is. I try not to take it personally, although easier said than done.

Good thing you're not an idea.

[Yimpa]

@momo he answered a similar question here:

 

[momo]

51 minutes ago, Osaid said:

You're asking the wrong person. Psychedelics don't give you enlightenment. Leo doesn't even believe enlightenment exists anymore. 

Not that psychedelics can't be useful, but they aren't really necessary, and they can actually become a massive distraction if "used for Truth." It's good for opening someone's mind if they are especially stubborn, maybe.

Bro stop kidding me, I've never seen someone who preaches that psychedelics are the shortest and strongest (and not exagerating to also say the only) path for god realisation like @Leo Gura does, he even said one time that if Ramana Maharashi tried psychedelics he will shit his pants. And by enlightenement I mean god realisation so don't say to me leo doesn't believe in enlightenement just because you think I'm talking about mainstream buddhist enlightenement of the west !

Edited October 12, 2023 by momo

[Osaid]

1 hour ago, momo said:

And by enlightenement I mean god realisation so don't say to me leo doesn't believe in enlightenement just because you think I'm talking about mainstream buddhist enlightenement of the west !

Oh right, enlightenment 2.0, the one where you realize that you're God an infinite amount of times. ?

Also, I'm not saying it because I think that you're talking about something. I'm saying it because Leo himself literally said it:
 

 

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, Osaid said:

Good thing you're not an idea.

Good thing Leo is not an idea?

[Yimpa]

I just think that we shouldn’t take what anyone says literally. Everyone seems to be in their own dream.

[momo]

1 hour ago, Osaid said:

 

 

A glimpse of what psychedelics can make you, megalomaniac ! I love Leo very much but he's SURELY not the only one who understands AWAKENING (and I'm obviously not talking about myself or any one in this forum). I know that he has  seen some real real REAL shit through his trips, but surely his not the only one who has experienced that.

Don't know, maybe he says he's the only one meaning in the solipsist way meaning he's the only one to exist ..

Edited October 12, 2023 by momo

[Yimpa]

15 minutes ago, momo said:

Don't know, maybe he says he's the only one meaning in the solipsist way meaning he's the only one to exist ..

Take everything he says with a grain of 5-MeO.

[LSD-Rumi]

@momo Just buy some acid tabs from the DW.

[momo]

12 minutes ago, LSD-Rumi said:

@momo Just buy some acid tabs from the DW.

what's is a DW ?

[Schizophonia]

33 minutes ago, momo said:

what's is a DW ?

Dark Web.

[redacted]

Edited October 12, 2023 by Carl-Richard
Don't bring dark web websites onto Actualized.org

[LSD-Rumi]

12 hours ago, momo said:

what's is a DW ?

Make sure not to buy anything from the Netherlands including acid tabs. Buy from The Uk, it will come as a flat letter and no one will suspect a thing.

[Razard86]

22 hours ago, momo said:

@Leo Gura I'm convinced that the best path for enlightenement is psychedelics, hower 99% of people in my country and many other 3rd world countries never even heard about them (they only know weed and other hard drugs). I'm not talking about all 3rd world countries but the majority of them espacially muslim countries. There is no access to these stuff what so ever. So basically if you're in a third world country you're destined to not be awake and all what you can do is meditate which has no significant effect against psychedelics ? What do you think ?

You can awaken through weed as well. All you really need is a consciousness altering substance thats why people can use things like sensory depravation tanks, meditation, self-hypnosis, etc. Your normal waking consciousness, and the rigidity, hardness, and attachment to your belief structure is what separates you from awakening. Think of it like a bunch of wires that are configured to render a specific experience called the human experience.

What your goal is, is to sever some or all of those wires (depending on how deep you want to go) to rid yourself of your static, solid experience and allow it to be more loosey goosey. This is when you will realize that reality....is a dream no different than your night time dreams, its just a more powerful consistent version but it was a dream the entire time. 

You can do this on any consciousness altering substances, this is why since the dawn of time humans have used drugs because drugs is one of the direct paths to God. Just be careful not to get addicted, you don't want those problems.

Edited October 13, 2023 by Razard86

[Schizophonia]

4 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

Make sure not to buy anything from the Netherlands including acid tabs. Buy from The Uk, it will come as a flat letter and no one will suspect a thing.

lol, the only letter i never received was from UK, alwarys received those which come from Netherland.