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Governor Newsom is letting liberals/progressives down

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California is supposed to be one of the most liberal states in the country, has had veto-proof supermajorities of Democrats in both houses of the California State Legislature for several years, a Democratic governor for over 5 years who ran as a liberal Democrat who ran on many liberal/progressive policies including wanting to enact a single payer system, legalize/decriminalize hallucinogens, controlling drug prices, etc.

Yet, Newsom just vetoed a lot of good left-wing policies that passed the CA state legislature and backed away from his support from making a serious push for single payer system in CA. Many liberals and progressives including myself have lately been disappointed by him.

 

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A single payer healthcare system would likely backfire badly.

California needs to get its taxes under control or it will lose a lot of business to other states.


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20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

A single payer healthcare system would likely backfire badly.

California needs to get its taxes under control or it will lose a lot of business to other states.

Sounds like a right-wing talking point or a talking point from the US Chamber of Commerce or Big Pharma. California already has budget surplus, already has the largest economy in the world (arguably 5th largest economy in the world), one of the most successful states in America, and already has high taxes. Plus, given that democrats have had massive majorities in both chambers in the CA state legislature and a Democratic who said he was serious about implementing single payer in the state as governor. Plus, according to the polls most people in California have no problem paying somewhat higher taxes and switching from private to public health insurance. Therefore, there has already been a clear mandate from the people of California to enact a single payer system in the state.

I don't see why a lot of businesses would move to other states when California is such a very popular place to live in. Also, I am sure that the top less than 1% of the rich elite people in California can pay enough of their fair share of wealth for funding a single-payer system.

Furthermore, California's population is only slightly larger than Canada and yet Canada has been able to make single payer work well for everyone one of its citizens.

Besides, Newsom doesn't seem to be pushing a lot of liberal/progressive policies when he should be. Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota has gotten a lot more liberal/progressive policies passed in his state than Newsom has in CA, even though Minnesota had a trifecta with only a one-seat state Senate majority:

 

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5 hours ago, Hardkill said:

I don't see why a lot of businesses would move to other states when California is such a very popular place to live in. Also, I am sure that the top less than 1% of the rich elite people in California can pay enough of their fair share of wealth for funding a single-payer system.

 

Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk pretty much moved to Texas.

Furthermore wealthy people in general set up businesses in Delaware to evade taxes

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12 minutes ago, Tanz said:

Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk pretty much moved to Texas.

Furthermore wealthy people in general set up businesses in Delaware to evade taxes

Okay, so that's only two wealthy elites who have always been right-wing megadonors and anti-labor unions that left California. No other state in the country still comes close to California's economic size and power.

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I read that he vetoed a bill that would lower the cost of insulin. Why the F would he do that?

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He's enacting the production of a public option (generic) for insulin at $30. That's good enough.

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On 10/12/2023 at 10:50 AM, Hardkill said:

Okay, so that's only two wealthy elites who have always been right-wing megadonors and anti-labor unions that left California. No other state in the country still comes close to California's economic size and power.

The amount of taxes they have to pay is enough money to fund many things. A few percent of several billion is ALOT of money. Actually many people moved to places like Texas officially and unofficially to evade taxes.  

A person can say the live in Texas and own a home there but also own a home in California and anywhere else.  

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