Posted October 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, hundreth said: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/17a7mmh/hamas_rocket_fails_midair_and_crashes_on_hospital/?share_id=z0WBBpDO5Q_5ljFT-c8hI Here's what happened. Hamas fucked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 @PurpleTree 2 minutes ago, hundreth said: What actually happened. Reddit is very reliable indeed... Unless official news say so, the current narrative told even by BBC is that Israel did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 @hundreth 7 minutes ago, hundreth said: Do you know the history? They rejected the UN partition which would have given them 50% of the land, then declared war on the Jews and lost. They could have made counter proposals, etc but they declared war. Also, even without context that isn't close to Nazi Germany's treatment of the Jews who created Gas chambers to more efficiently kill Jews. Stop comparing everything to Nazis, nuance is needed. Yes, nuance is needed, so here's the nuance: Tell Israel to stop taking more land, and give some back! Stop deporting native Palestinians from their homes and filling them with Jews from other countries that have nothing to do with Palestinian and Israeli lands! Tell that to Netan Yahoo, and tell him and his party to curb their Zionism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scholar said: Now, to be clear, I have no idea if this is true, but the fact that you guys are so quick to jump to conclusions should tell you that you are infected with twitteritis. For all you know, Hamas just bombed their own hospital and you are calling warcrime by Israel. That would be pretty odd as their rockets really aren’t that powerful, but if so yes, both sides have been very reckless in jumping to conclusions. Just a few days ago even Biden spread the false report of babies beheaded by Hamas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 I like the example of slave revolts. Some slave revolts, especially the ones that happened in Haiti, were absolutely brutal. Slaves would storm the manors of slave owners and slaughter entire families. This does not change the fact that the slaves are justified in their anger and the slave owners were wrong in holding them as slaves in the first place. أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وأشهد أن ليو رسول الله Translation: I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and Leo [Gura] is the messenger of Allah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 Scary how a few rich Jews can influence the whole west to totally ignore all their morals about what is wrong and right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Raze said: That would be pretty odd as their rockets really aren’t that powerful, but if so yes, both sides have been very reckless in jumping to conclusions. Just a few days ago even Biden spread the false report of babies beheaded by Hamas. What both sides? I am talking to you guys, you are behaving like children. Give me a break, you don't know shit about rockets, you don't know shit about the damage done to the hospital or how it would look like. You're a literal keyboard warrior, calm down and get off twitter. Edited October 17, 2023 by Scholar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, zazen said: So video footage doesn't convince you, but audio comparisons are good for you? I wait and see investigations in the coming days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Scholar said: What both sides? I am talking to you guys, you are behaving like children. Ok papa Edited October 17, 2023 by PurpleTree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and saying that Hamas has the capacity of making such an attack is an extremely extraordinary claim https://twitter.com/Kahlissee/status/1714399214229188673?t=5OudIKufHpDsdPVQdmrmvQ&s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 Just now, PurpleTree said: Ok papa Leo is way too lenient on your guys, he needs to get out the belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Scholar said: I am talking to you guys, you are behaving like children. You seem to support Israel or at least see it equal instead of an oppressor. May I ask what makes you see them as not horrible? How are Palestinians equal to Israel in guilt or blame here? Edited October 17, 2023 by Karmadhi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 @Karmadhi 5 minutes ago, Karmadhi said: @Danioover9000 Sorry I meant MODERN RUSSIA under PUTIN. Putin is wanted for war crimes in the Hague. How many Israel leaders are wanted? Oh I see, pardon the misunderstanding, thought you were comparing the history between Russia and Israel, and which two are worse which IMO is far more brutal. I'm sure there might be some Israeli war criminals there, but we'll never know because some of that info isn't available, and mostly will far under some justified defense or other narrative. I'm still shocked, but not surprised that the USA or other countries are not putting any condemnation onto Israel, only just HAMAs and Palestinians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 Just now, Karmadhi said: You seem to support Israel or at least see it equal instead of an oppressor. May I ask what makes you see them as not horrible? How are Palestinians equal to Israel in guilt or blame here? If I had a say in this I would send the crusaders into Israel and everyone would live under Christian rule how it is supposed to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 @Karmadhi 1 minute ago, Karmadhi said: You seem to support Israel or at least see it equal instead of an oppressor. May I ask what makes you see them as not horrible? How are Palestinians equal to Israel in guilt or blame here? He'll never admit anything. I pushed on him before, but he'll weasel, watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 Just now, Danioover9000 said: I'm still shocked, but not surprised that the USA or other countries are not putting any condemnation onto Israel, only just HAMAs and Palestinians. This is my whole point... but @Scholartends to ignore it and just call us "kids". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said: I like the example of slave revolts. Some slave revolts, especially the ones that happened in Haiti, were absolutely brutal. Slaves would storm the manors of slave owners and slaughter entire families. This does not change the fact that the slaves are justified in their anger and the slave owners were wrong in holding them as slaves in the first place. @Leo Gura PLEASE make a part two about to the war and conflict episode, and tie it in with these current events. أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وأشهد أن ليو رسول الله Translation: I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and Leo [Gura] is the messenger of Allah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 Quote The Russian-led draft resolution received five votes in favour (China, Gabon, Mozambique, Russia, and the United Arab Emirates) and four against (France, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States), with six abstentions (Albania, Brazil, Ecuador, Ghana, Malta, and Switzerland). Members were divided over the lack of specific condemnation of extremist group Hamas, which began the current escalation of violence, sending hundreds of fighters to carry out massacres in settlements near to the Gaza Strip on 7 October. For the Council to adopt a resolution, the proposal must receive at least nine votes in favour, with none of its five permanent members opposing or casting a veto. The draft text had called for a humanitarian ceasefire, release of all hostages, aid access, and safe evacuation of civilians. A further draft resolution is on the Council's agenda for consideration on Tuesday, from Brazil. According to news reports, it calls for humanitarian pauses, as well as issued condemnation of Hamas and all terrorist acts against civilians. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/10/1142427 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
