Posted February 27 (edited) @Raze Oh OK then hamas is ok until proven behind any doubt that he isn't and Israel is anyway the war criminal. Go for whatever make you feel good. There were many videos shown in them that hamas shoots citizens who try to take food but it won't convince you anyway. Good night 🌔 Edited February 27 by Nivsch 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 27 (edited) Israel has been constantly threatened and attacked for 100 years by the countries that surround it and by the Palestinians with whom they live .Whit legitimate reasons? Maybe, depends of who judge it. Israel responds with war more threats. Now what happens is simple: war. In war only one thing counts, winning it. If you have scruples, dedicate yourself to something else, but you must scape from there. Who has the reason? It is subjective and impossible to determine. The only real thing is that Israel is demonstrating that it dares to real war, that if it is attacked, it will respond in a lethal and brutal way. This is how the dynamics of war work, and other considerations are irrelevant. Edited February 27 by Breakingthewall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 27 (edited) @Breakingthewall The Camel's back has been broken eventually. Edited February 27 by Nivsch 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 27 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Nivsch said: @Raze Oh OK then hamas is ok until proven behind any doubt that he isn't and Israel is anyway the war criminal. Go for whatever make you feel good. There were many videos shown in them that hamas shoots citizens who try to take food but it won't convince you anyway. Good night 🌔 I’m not. I will accept evidence if it is presented. Stealing aid doesn’t just mean isolated cases that could be committed by anyone. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-special-envoy-no-record-hamas-blocking-or-seizing-aid-2023-11-04/ https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/war-in-israel/hamas-not-hijacking-gaza-aid-unrwa/ Let’s say Hamas is stealing aid. So they should just block aid and let millions of people starve? Edited February 27 by Raze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 27 19 minutes ago, Raze said: Let’s say Hamas is stealing aid. So they should just block aid and let millions of people starve? They should = who? 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 27 @Nivsch ohhh man i started to read your replays ,thought you have a point , bro when you want to talk about a topic read about it good , dont watch a fucken vedio or two and now replaying to people , you have to study more https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 28 @royce 1 hour ago, royce said: @Nivsch ohhh man i started to read your replays ,thought you have a point , bro when you want to talk about a topic read about it good , dont watch a fucken vedio or two and now replaying to people , you have to study more https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal Is that you Royce Da 5'9??? Your Book of Rhymes album is meh, it needs improvement. @zazen 10 hours ago, zazen said: Isn't it a logical contradiction for some Israeli's to say that Hamas are so savage they don't even care about their people suffering above ground - but then they think they can pressure Hamas to give up or agree to a hostage exchange by bringing about suffering to the people they fight for by restricting aid. If the view is that Hamas are so savage and don't care about their people, why then think that restricting aid and bombing innocent people would pressure Hamas while their immune from it underground? Besides strategy - it seems the whole conversation about it being morally abhorrent to collectively punish a people seems to be absent because its now become normalised after months of war crimes that the US keeps co-signing on and only paying lip service to the fact they are 'concerned' yet not doing anything tangible but instead continue vetoing ceasefires. Disgusting. I agree it's deeply contradictory. It's just like @Leo Gura's video on strategic intent, all depends on your strategic intent: if a country wants to increase suffering and humiliation of another country, they aggressively expand into their lands. If they want long term peace, then they expand slowly. If the strategic intent is to create a trap, a place of entanglement to anchor a nomadic peoples into that one piece of land, then you make sweet promises to them, and attach significant meanings for that collective ego to define itself by. Crazy to think that Osho knew about all this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 28 6 hours ago, Danioover9000 said: @royce Is that you Royce Da 5'9??? Your Book of Rhymes album is meh, it needs improvement. @zazen I agree it's deeply contradictory. It's just like @Leo Gura's video on strategic intent, all depends on your strategic intent: if a country wants to increase suffering and humiliation of another country, they aggressively expand into their lands. If they want long term peace, then they expand slowly. If the strategic intent is to create a trap, a place of entanglement to anchor a nomadic peoples into that one piece of land, then you make sweet promises to them, and attach significant meanings for that collective ego to define itself by. Crazy to think that Osho knew about all this. yeah it's me bro , and i did the improvement . you last time checked on the book was in 2018 and btw now im royce da 5'5 (( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 28 https://www.bitchute.com/video/lrYHBMnNS6p0/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 28 (edited) US airman Aaron Bushnell claimed to have classified knowledge of US forces fighting in Gaza tunnels on night before setting himself on fire: pal https://nypost.com/2024/02/27/us-news/aaron-bushnell-claimed-secret-knowledge-of-us-forces-in-gaza/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost Edited February 28 by royce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 28 Are there streamers denying genocide? This looks extra bad for Destiny as he in the past initially was objective, but then went far right in denying this and laughing at the genocide happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 29 (edited) Former IDF intelligence member masquerading as a journalist in New York Times, Is anyone surprised? Edited February 29 by lina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 29 (edited) Aaron Bushnell's friend talks about him Edited February 29 by lina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Posted March 1 (edited) @Danioover9000 If he wants to see a clearer picture he must put himself in the hostages families shoes and also understand that yes even the decision makers minds are affected by the obligation they feel to the hostages lives and their indentification with them. But he doesn't want to see the complexity of the situation and prefer to maintain his story of the "bad vs the good" which make him a sense of meaning and put himself as the "good guy" who exposes the "injustices" and so on. Well ok, I understand he needs this meaning for himself. What about to call to put more pressure on hamas to release them ones and for all? Nah. Less interesting. This isn't sound as sexy. Ok. Edited March 1 by Nivsch 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 1 (edited) @Danioover9000 That Osho vid you shared earlier was very interesting to say the least. On 29/02/2024 at 7:40 AM, lina said: Former IDF intelligence member masquerading as a journalist in New York Times, Is anyone surprised? I read some where that its not just propaganda but atrocity propaganda which is a fitting term. The lies keep piling up. @Raze That bulldozer story is just horrifying, body literally exploding from the pressure. And then the flour massacre. So a captive population of which half are children are starved (to PrEssUre HaMaS bRo) and then when they run after the aid they are shot at? Then we're told the pressure is to release hostages when deals have been declined to release them for a ceasefire and truce? As if they want us to believe they care about the hostages so much that they bomb a tiny strip of land in which they are held hostage? What more does the world need to see and how can Zionists just revert to blaming Hamas for everything with a serious face. Edited March 1 by zazen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 1 Second to This guy, people dont figth for food, land or resources but they figth fot stories in their minds What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 1 (edited) @Nivsch You are very biased I think. 40ish hostages is terrible… a thousand murdered is terrible… ….hundreds of thousands starving and 30,000 dead is a whole other level. I continue to study the history of this situation from multiple perspectives. What happened in 1948? What has been the realist in Palestine for the last 70 years? Every terrorist, every nation that commits genocide, every murderer, conman, thief, rapist, etc had good intentions. Edited March 1 by Thought Art "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver ◭"89"◮ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 1 (edited) @Thought Art I disagree. hamas has 90-95% of the blame to the situation in Gaza. To say our government didn't go too far from time to time? It is. I am not denying there is an extra damage in Gaza that could be avoided. There are problems of course. But Israel right now is a cornered animal and if you can't see that you can't see the situation clearly. Talking on history, both sides poured fuel to the fire, but the palestinians chose more terror even after a decade long of agreements to their favor. They don't want compromises. They want the whole cake. Most of the Palestinians came to the region just a little while before Israel, by the way. Edited March 1 by Nivsch 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
