Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Karmadhi said: Israeli bombs kill more civilians in Gaza per day than Hamas has captives in Palestine. Why you make such a big deal about them? 100 is way smaller number than 20.000. Hamas started this war, Israel doesn't bomb out of nowhere. Israel bombs with the intention to destroy Hamas. Hamas would like to kill all Israelis, or as many as they could, and they would have done that if they could. Israel doesn't have the intention to kill as many Palestinians as it could. If it had, it would have done that already, many years ago. "Never be afraid to sit a while and think.” ― Lorraine Hansberry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lila9 said: Hamas started this war, Israel doesn't bomb out of nowhere. Israel bombs with the intention to destroy Hamas. Hamas would like to kill all Israelis, or as many as they could, and they would have done that if they could. Israel doesn't have the intention to kill as many Palestinians as it could. If it had, it would have done that already, many years ago. Hamas did not start anything. It was ongoing conflict for decades. Israel killed historically dozens times more people than Hamas did. Just because Israel got attacked once brutally when it did brutally attack others dozens of times. It is basically like the Nazis crying for Dresden when they inflicted way more pain on others during the war. When you say "Hamas started this war", you are implying that things were peaceful there and they were not. Hamas has the collective trauma of Palestinians which makes them act like they do and think like they do. Israelis have little collective trauma inflicted by Palestinians. Dont take our your historical anger about Nazis raping and killing Jews on Palestinians. Edited January 9 by Karmadhi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9 19 minutes ago, Karmadhi said: You are delusional if you think they have a pro Palestinian agenda. Why would they have an agenda for people that are poor, have no power, no support, no nothing? What do they gain from it? Think. No, I'm not delusional, this is a valid criticism of these highly biased organizations. I wouldn't believe them blindly only because they call themselves human rights organizations. I clearly see that they have a pro-Palestinian agenda, not because they are providing aid for Palestinians, but because they are deliberately ignoring Hamas and other terrorist organizations in the West Bank and Gaza and their treatment towards Palestinians. They blame everything on Israel, closing their eyes to the fact that Palestinian children are living in an unsafe environment surrounded by Hamas weapons, educated for terror and hatred. They also close their eyes to the human rights violations caused by Hamas towards Palestinians, including executions of Palestinian women and LGBTQ people in Gaza and the West Bank. Why are you blind to that? Why don't you want to see the complete picture? Because it doesn't suit your highly biased and simplified narrative? "Never be afraid to sit a while and think.” ― Lorraine Hansberry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9 @Merkabah Star 46 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said: @Lila9 I’m not triggered even a little bit. Lmao. Those two are so unbelievably cringe, how are they so blind that their side is not only doing genocide, but are destroying so many buildings that Gazans will be homeless and will increase immigration to other countries? Jeez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, Karmadhi said: Hamas did not start anything. It was ongoing conflict for decades. Israel killed historically dozens times more people than Hamas did. Just because Israel got attacked once brutally when it did brutally attack others dozens of times. It is basically like the Nazis crying for Dresden when they inflicted way more pain on others during the war. When you say "Hamas started this war", you are implying that things were peaceful there and they were not. Hamas has the collective trauma of Palestinians which makes them act like they do and think like they do. Israelis have little collective trauma inflicted by Palestinians. Dont take our your historical anger about Nazis raping and killing Jews on Palestinians. Hamas started this war, and Palestinians initiated this conflict. They had the choice not to attack and solve this peacefully, but they always chose terror, and Israel fought back. You don't know much about Israeli collective trauma to say that Israel has 'little' trauma, you are talking from ignorance. "Never be afraid to sit a while and think.” ― Lorraine Hansberry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9 @Lila9 1 hour ago, Lila9 said: There was a ceasefire, it has been broken by Hamas. Hamas are not realible. Hamas are not interested in peace, it's so delulu and disconnected from reality to believe they care about peace. They can start from stoping support Hamas, donating money to them under the cover of "human rights organizations" and UNRA and put more pressure on Hamas leadership to release the hostages. So because of one small evil group, the IDF gets to carpet bomb buildings and infrastructure of Gaza, and displace Gaza population thus increase immigration issues? Sounds like genocide justification to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9 @Lila9 4 minutes ago, Lila9 said: Hamas started this war, and Palestinians initiated this conflict. They had the choice not to attack and solve this peacefully, but they always chose terror, and Israel fought back. You don't know much about Israeli collective trauma to say that Israel has 'little' trauma, you are talking from ignorance. Yeah @Karmadhi. You know Jake about Israel collective trauma, so no comments about them genocidal tendencies Okay, ignoramus?! Clearly Israel isn't displacing Gaza, or mass killing women and children to get to a small bunch of terrorists or anything baka! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 14 hours ago, Lila9 said: The Slaughter 710 on Telegram: https://t.me/the_slaughter710 Add hamas.com and thisishamas.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 14 hours ago, Lila9 said: I don't subscribe to the "they do that because they are oppressed" theory. Many oppressed groups don't exhibit similar behavior, suggesting a toxic ideological factor at play in their actions that isn't Israel's fault. Truly oppressed people will not have free reign to build rockets and launchers, do not have free reign to build terror tunnels, it's all BS propaganda. Uyghurs is more fitting with the description of oppressed, because they are hauled up into concentration camps, then again it is their own self created reality of terrorizing Xinjiang for years. Rohingya is more fitting with the description of oppressed, but according to government officials, X users testimonies, and my own Myanmar factory worker, they cause terrorism and crime as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said: @Merkabah Star Those two are so unbelievably cringe, how are they so blind that their side is not only doing genocide, but are destroying so many buildings that Gazans will be homeless and will increase immigration to other countries? Jeez When they do their military service the indoctrination is big. I would refuse to do military service if I lived there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 12 hours ago, Karmadhi said: Here is a solution for you: Go back to 1947 borders and give them 50% of the land. 1947 borders won't work because the Jews want Judea and Samaria, their ancient land. Plus, Israelis need to cut Jordan off from the Westbanker Pales, otherwise Jihadis would cross over the Jordan river, bringing with them weaponry and munitions. I am thinking a land transfer to Eilat, south of Israel, but then again people would all be hesitant to move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 2 hours ago, Karmadhi said: Israelis have little collective trauma inflicted by Palestinians. Little ? And how would you know that ? Blowing up buses, stabbings, ramming vehicles into people, shootings are all little ? Cross country killing, killing athletes in Spain, in the Olympics is little ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 On 10/7/2023 at 0:34 PM, PurpleTree said: Islam does too it seems because in other places people didn‘t commit terror attacks like tibet etc not saying one is better than the other, tibet is mostly gone Buddhism follows the doctrine of adhimsa (, i.e. do no harm). Islam recognizes the right of Jihad to fight injustice. They are different beliefs. I hold it as an open question as to which is right, or whether they are both right. Vincit omnia Veritas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, jaylimix said: Add hamas.com and thisishamas.com I have watched them. For me it's important. I am weak and shaking but I can handle it. It's a reality that must be faced and integrated. The tied-up raped and burnt bodies hit the hardest knowing they were shimmering and beautiful young women. The cutting out of the fetus from the stomach while the woman is consciously watching, is so gruesome my brain cannot register it as real. There is also a collection of 50 minutes of video of Hamas atrocities that is too traumatizing to publicly publish and is only shown to journalists and officials in private screenings. All of this savagery is committed by people/human animals who are considered heroes in Palestinian culture. "An integral part of the resistance" one would proudly boast. Palestinians have first and foremost dehumanized themselves. I don't hate them it's just that I have zero respect for their culture. All of my more moderate and peaceful views come from wisdom and cold principles but I have no real compassion for Palestinians. Only for those I love do I have extreme and even painful compassion. I love my family and my (ex) girls. I have respect for nearly all peoples of this world, also compassion to a degree. My deepest love and compassion is for Israelis, I also have a felt love for Russians. Feeling compassion hurts like a bitch. Edited January 10 by Vrubel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 4 hours ago, jaylimix said: Little ? And how would you know that ? Blowing up buses, stabbings, ramming vehicles into people, shootings are all little ? Cross country killing, killing athletes in Spain, in the Olympics is little ? A decades long trauma. Now the patience is over and the pressure cooker overflowed. 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, jaylimix said: Truly oppressed people will not have free reign to build rockets and launchers, do not have free reign to build terror tunnels, it's all BS propaganda. A very good point in my opinion. It is estimated by ~500km(!) of an underground terror tunnels built state. Very oppressed 🙂 Edited January 10 by Nivsch 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 The Psychology of Israeli Propaganda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, Vrubel said: The cutting out of the fetus from the stomach while the woman is consciously watching, is so gruesome my brain cannot register it as real. We are seekers of truth, therefore it should be pointed out that that video is not verified to be of Oct 7, and could be of Latin drug cartels. But a first responder did testify that he turned a pregnant woman over with stomach cut open and the fetus stabbed. Edited January 10 by jaylimix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 https://www.salon.com/2024/01/05/cnn-admits-it-runs-all-gaza-coverage-through-bureau-monitored-by-israeli-military-censor_partner/ CNN admits it runs all Gaza coverage through bureau monitored by Israeli military censor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 10 (edited) 30 minutes ago, kenway said: The Psychology of Israeli Propaganda The thirst for justice and the emotions when someone isn't educated about this so tricky issue is very understandble. But this is only a phase, and if holywood people are intelligent and sensitive (and I believe part of them are) then they will understand the truth later in their life. A bunch of holywood folks are already understand and much more emphatetic of Israel. Edited January 10 by Nivsch 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
