New War In Israel / Gaza

[Danioover9000]

@Lila9 @Vrubel  and @@Nivsch , you are blocked and in my ignore list. I will never post or communicate to you 3 EVER AGAIN! So deranged and delusional it's insane dealing with harassment mail from you 3. Don't ever talk to me or communicate to me in this forum or I will report you 3 to the moderators and @Leo Gura to enforce this boundary right now. That's it, am not ever coming to this thread again, maybe the political sub forum, it's now too toxic to deal with dogmatic users hate messaging me, unbelievable. Don't talk to me ever.

[Nivsch]

@Danioover9000 Me sent you a mail? I didn't send you anything.

 

 

[Lila9]

@Danioover9000 

Could you share the messages that have been sent to you by the three users you tagged?

I am certain that I have never sent any messages to you.

[Vrubel]

@Danioover9000 I never made anything personal with you. What harassment? what hate? 

[StarStruck]

27 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Lila9 @Vrubel  and @@Nivsch , you are blocked and in my ignore list. I will never post or communicate to you 3 EVER AGAIN! So deranged and delusional it's insane dealing with harassment mail from you 3. Don't ever talk to me or communicate to me in this forum or I will report you 3 to the moderators and @Leo Gura to enforce this boundary right now. That's it, am not ever coming to this thread again, maybe the political sub forum, it's now too toxic to deal with dogmatic users hate messaging me, unbelievable. Don't talk to me ever.

👍🏽

[Merkabah Star]

12 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Lila9 @Vrubel  and @@Nivsch , you are blocked and in my ignore list. I will never post or communicate to you 3 EVER AGAIN! So deranged and delusional it's insane dealing with harassment mail from you 3. Don't ever talk to me or communicate to me in this forum or I will report you 3 to the moderators and @Leo Gura to enforce this boundary right now. That's it, am not ever coming to this thread again, maybe the political sub forum, it's now too toxic to deal with dogmatic users hate messaging me, unbelievable. Don't talk to me ever.

It’s a heated topic for everyone. Just have a break. 

they live there so it’s really personal for them. 
 

 

[PurpleTree]

 

[Karmadhi]

@Danioover9000  I know its none of my business but @Nivsch is relatively fairly moderate pro Israeli, not a radical. He is of course in my opinion biased but quite open to criticism of Israel and also agrees on some important points. So I think it is a bit unfair to hate on him like this. 
I am assuming he did not private message you hateful stuff , if he did then fine.

Edited December 18, 2023 by Karmadhi

[Vrubel]

7 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

 

Both seem very down to earth and objective, good share.

[hundreth]

9 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

 

Yeah, this is a well done and well informed conversation.

[Nivsch]

@Raze Yes, there is a problem here in the way the fire is, sometimes, used in a too loose way when children are being hurted or killed from that, what could be avoided quite easily and therefore cannot be justified by any explanation.

It won't be fair to dismiss these cases as just a technical problem, but rather a symptom of a deeper general problem of moral development but mainly in some troop squads that lack this moral sense probably more than the average center of gravity of the culture.

In every such a big army, to those specific sub groups of troops (which are maybe less moral than the average) to not be too-easy in their use of fire, the average of IDF were to be in tier two which is unrealistic today in any nation anyway.

This in no way means the problem should not be addressed seriously within the IDF, but what it comes to say is, when pretending to take extreme cases and from them critisize an entire country, the critisim must be taken in a proper proportions and relative to realistic outcomes in a western world average context. Otherwise the critism will be misleading and hypocrite.

Edited December 18, 2023 by Nivsch

[zazen]

On 18/12/2023 at 9:26 AM, PurpleTree said:

 

As others mentioned - great video.

Not sure what happened with @Danioover9000 and others but cool heads, peace and love prevail  - if not in the Middle East at least on this forum 🙏🏻

Edited December 19, 2023 by zazen

[zazen]

 

 

The fact of Christian existence goes against the narrative of Hamas being Islamists most likely - so it must be denied Christians or functioning Churches reside there.

Edited December 19, 2023 by zazen

[Raze]

 

[StarStruck]

Imagine another country saying this.

Edited December 20, 2023 by StarStruck

[Merkabah Star]

 

 

[Danioover9000]

@Merkabah Star

4 hours ago, Merkabah Star said:

 

 

   I don't get the flip flop here with the EU. Earlier they're willing to condemn Israel for this humanitarian crisis, but then turn around and target Elon's X, which is fair, for hate speech to Israel...I don't think this will go well for EU. Also Rumble is a bit biased and heavy into free speech issues, as if if they switched with YouTube and had it's billions of users, content and viewers that Rumble wouldn't be changing it's free speech policies.

[Karmadhi]

I think the best solution would be for Israel to go back into the 1947 borders and give back to Palestine all the stolen land that does not belong on those borders.

They stole it illegally. The UN did not agree to land outside those borders so it is done by violating international law

[Nivsch]

@Karmadhi Those lands been taken during a war the Arabs initiated, in which the Jews were even in an inferiority position and almost lost. but then, changed their attitude from mainly defence to mainly attack, and against most odds - survived. This is war, and both side have equal responsibility to the consequences and even more so the side who started it.

Edited December 20, 2023 by Nivsch

[Danioover9000]

@zazen

On 2023-12-19 at 2:09 PM, zazen said:

 

 

The fact of Christian existence goes against the narrative of Hamas being Islamists most likely - so it must be denied Christians or functioning Churches reside there.

   Yes, a different take on that:

   IMO she needs better training to lie convincingly, you can't just make statement of "I saw the report" but when pushed back, 20 seconds later "I didn't saw the report". Based on my read of her body language, her left cheek smirking either in contempt/moral/intellectual superiority in her claims, plus brief furrowing of brows for concentration/focus or maybe micro expression of frustration.