Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) @Leo Gura I think this is the first thread in this forum to go over 200 pages. Congrats Edited November 16, 2023 by Karmadhi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Karmadhi said: @Leo Gura I think this is the first thread in this forum to go over 200 pages. Congrats Yea, it shows you what the people are focused on. Let me start a thread about Love. It'll probably consist of 2 pages. Ok, let's hear it, we need to know what's going on in the world and be concerned. Edited November 17, 2023 by Princess Arabia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Karmadhi said: @Leo Gura I think this is the first thread in this forum to go over 200 pages. Congrats 🥳 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) NSFL (dead child warning): https://twitter.com/Sarah_Hassan94/status/1724845396302700743?s=20 Edited November 17, 2023 by Raze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 @Karmadhi @PurpleTree 2 hours ago, Karmadhi said: @Leo Gura I think this is the first thread in this forum to go over 200 pages. Congrats Shows how intense this topic is now. 59 minutes ago, PurpleTree said: 🥳 Nice profile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Raze said: NSFL (dead child warning): https://twitter.com/Sarah_Hassan94/status/1724845396302700743?s=20 Thanks for showing this @Nivsch My name is Victoria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 Delete the links when you quote a post with links Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Danioover9000 said: @Karmadhi @PurpleTree Shows how intense this topic is now. Nice profile. Shows how important Israel is for people here Edited November 17, 2023 by Nivsch 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Buck Edwards said: Thanks for showing this @Nivsch Ohh I like them both Edited November 17, 2023 by Nivsch 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 8 hours ago, hundreth said: I believe it's necessary to remove Hamas. Hamas is tormenting both Israelis and Palestinians by stealing aid, not holding elections, organizing attacks on civilians from both sides, etc. They are a non starter for peace negotiations in the region, and they've radicalized large swaths of the Gazan population. This requires a very invasive troops on the ground approach with a lot of ugly guerrilla warfare. It's not enough to take out the leaders, you need to uproot Hamas from the ground up and change the status quo. Because of how entangled Hamas is with the civilian population, it's really difficult to limit civilian casualties and collateral damage. The IDF's approach of air striking the region before sending ground troops in is reasonable if you're trying to reduce Israeli casualties, which they definitely are. This doesn't mean they're trying to indiscriminately kill Gazan civilians. I think this is an unfair claim, as there's a 1 to 1 air strike to civilian casualty ratio. If Israel's goal was to eliminate casualties, it wouldn't be this way. On the other hand, where you draw the line in terms of risking Israeli lives is a gray area and Its worth having this discussion. Do I believe that Israel is perfectly toeing the line between risking Israeli vs. Palestinian lives? No. Exercising caution is important here. I think Biden is actually doing a great job of walking this careful line. A ceasefire is not the answer here. If we begin a ceasefire before Hamas is eliminated, all of this damage, destruction, and lives lost will be for nothing. With all the pain and torment this saga has created, we should have some tangible difference here with a promise of change. The big question is, what comes next? After Israel removes Hamas and polices the area for a bit, where do we go? I think the U.N. will need to step in with a peacekeeping force and ensure aid, food and resources all go directly to the Palestinian people. I think if Palestinian lives slowly improve economically with mutually beneficial trade partnership with Israelis, these wounds will slowly heal and peace will become possible. From the Israeli side, Netanyahu's right wing government will need to be replaced with policies that prevent settler expansion, etc. This recent event will literally create so many more Hamas members. They can't be defeated your government is lying to you and you are brainwashed enough to believe it meanwhile its obvious to a five year old End of story. Theres no arguing that this creates more terrorists so just shut up about Hamas and actually bring intelligent discourse. You cant keep arguing points that dont even make sense just to fit your selfish narrative Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said: Yea, it shows you what the people are focused on. Let me start a thread about Love. It'll probably consist of 2 pages. Ok, let's hear it, we need to know what's going on in the world and be concerned. Let me guess. You are in the safety and comfort of a first world country with reasonable prosperity and opportunity? I dont think you even know what love is. Keep watching Disney channel and Netflix until you finally grow up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Sabth said: After all you've done you think peace is an option? Fuck. I think the Palestinians will only have hatred (and disgust) towards the Israel. They will forever be against each other to infinity. Both of them hate each other very much. I said it before. They think they are so superior that even their tyranny is somehow a blessing Then when the other side wants revenge they are shocked to the core They are truly evil and insane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said: Yea, it shows you what the people are focused on. Let me start a thread about Love. It'll probably consist of 2 pages. Ok, let's hear it, we need to know what's going on in the world and be concerned. I will post on your love thread.. ♥️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Please stay with us to A moment in History 🏤 📆 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzrJyEyNbhm/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Edited November 17, 2023 by Nivsch 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Nivsch said: Shows how important Israel is for people here I love Israel. I know many people love to hate Israel. But Israel always was strong and advanced depiste all the haters. And it will be so. They think that the more they hate on Israel, the faster it will be ruined. But the truth is that their hatred around the world fuels Israel to be even better and stronger. Which causes them to hate Israel even more, which makes Israel even more better and stronger 🙈 "Never be afraid to sit a while and think.” ― Lorraine Hansberry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Lila9 said: I love Israel. I know many people love to hate Israel. But Israel always was strong and advanced depiste all the haters. And it will be so. They think that the more they hate on Israel, the faster it will be ruined. But the truth is that their hatred around the world fuels Israel to be even better and stronger. Which causes them to hate Israel even more, which makes Israel even more better and stronger 🙈 A vicous circle 😂 It will end in a black hole formation. Edited November 17, 2023 by Nivsch 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 12 hours ago, Vrubel said: I think you'll find it interesting to know that many Palestinians considered themselves Syrians before Israel, and referred to themselves as such. 'Palestinian' as a distinct national identity was only formed in reaction to the Jews settling the land. Also there are many 'Palestinians' who are Egyptians, Jordanians. Arafat, the first leader of what is called PNA was born and grew up in Egypt. 12 hours ago, Vrubel said: The reason Israel was established and not Palestine is because the Israelis had a clear identity and were very energetic about their goals. The Palestinians still had to figure out who they were in a sense. Before 1967, Arabs had full sovereignty on the West Bank and Gaza and yet there was no Palestine. Nor did the Palestinians demand sovereignty from the Egyptians and Jordanians. Jordan was basically a Palestinian state with a big Palestinian majority, they were just not the ruling elite. Because Palestinians never had real nationalistic intentions, as you said, they define themselves as Palestinians against the Jews in Israel but in reality they see themselves as part of the Arab world in the middle east, like part of some big Arab tribe. So if they are under the Jordanian or Egyptian occupation that would be fine for them. Even their flag is not different from other Arab flags. The Palestinian flag is the old flag of Jordan. In order to have really nationalistic intentions a group needs to be at least orange in SD and the Palestinians as a group are not there yet. Their excuse in fighting Israel is that they want to have soverty as a nation, but actually their Muslim Arab pride was hurt because Jews won them in the war and they cannot accept the lost against Jews. "Never be afraid to sit a while and think.” ― Lorraine Hansberry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Nivsch said: A vicous circle 😂 Definitely 😉 "Never be afraid to sit a while and think.” ― Lorraine Hansberry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 17, 2023 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
