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@Lila9 Fuck Hamas but killing 6000+ Civilians  in three weeks makes Israel the biggest terrorist state in the world right now just like Assad and hitler 

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1 hour ago, integration journey said:

@Lila9 Fuck Hamas but killing 6000+ Civilians  in three weeks makes Israel the biggest terrorist state in the world right now just like Assad and hitler 

Israel doesn't kill innocent civilians on purpose, they are not driven by such ideology. They fight against terrorists which are Hamas and not against Palestinians.

I watched IDFs declare and they explain the systematic usage of Hamas of sensitive places like hospitals, they included illustration of the tunnels located under these places and the entire underground system where the control rooms of Hamas are. Very informative.

https://youtu.be/-ggBF9rnBe0?si=_QUzjZC7N4NpkJE4


"Never be afraid to sit a while and think.” ― Lorraine Hansberry

 

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Terrible night in Gaza with no connection - curious if Elon Musk will help with star link as he did with Ukraine?

“Israel's motivation to launch a ground offensive into Gaza is driven by their humiliation caused by the Hamas offensive and is also driven by a desire for retribution. Fighting a war on this basis is not only a disaster for the Palestinian people but ultimately will led to the downfall of Israel, not least because the world is seeing how Israel has total disregard for civilian lives in Gaza leading to blatant war crimes. 

We are now at a major inflexion point because you can guarantee a resolution of the Palestinian question is now coming. Israel caused this by launching this offensive.”

 

UN resolution for ceasefire had an overwhelming majority of countries in favour for it whilst Israel dismisses it - bad optics for Israel.

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@zazen There is zero chance I can convince you that those civilians are asked to leave 100 times and Israel is trying to target only terrorists as much as it possible. I know where your emotions are. This is not gonna change only because I say something.

But try for even one minute to think what would you do if ISIS would invase your home town you grew up from childhood and kill and torture 1,200 people from YOUR childhood hometown families and friends. 

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If a mass shooter took refuge in a classroom full of kindergarteners, would you ever think it was okay to bomb the classroom ?

 


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1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

@zazen There is zero chance I can convince you that those civilians are asked to leave 100 times and Israel is trying to target only terrorists as much as it possible. I know where your emotions are. This is not gonna change only because I say something.

If after all that's happening you still can't see how the Israeli gov. have 0 regard for human lives, then I don't think you're exposed to the Palestinian reality that is shown through their in ground media with actual footage and personal reports, maybe try to look at the other side for just a minute. 

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@lina hamas uses civilians as human shield all the time. This is his #1 strategy. This is the every terror organizatiom #1 strategy because he knows he is weaker than military.

This is in terror DNA to use civilians as human shield.

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48 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

If a mass shooter took refuge in a classroom full of kindergarteners, would you ever think it was okay to bomb the classroom ?

 

^nice analogy.
 

but they told the children to go, so it’s their own fault, should have listened. Even though they had no where to go and when the children that did go are on the road, they still bomb them 😳😳😳

 

it’s a no win situation. 


 

 

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13 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

children that did go are on the road, they still bomb them

Yes, bombed by Hamas, the irresponsible and toxic adults who should take care of them but instead...


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12 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Yes, bombed by Hamas, the irresponsible and toxic adults who should take care of them but instead...

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13 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Yes, bombed by Hamas, the irresponsible and toxic adults who should take care of them but instead...

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At least 2,704 children have been killed, according to Palestinian health officials, since Israel began its bombardment on Gaza in retaliation for Hamas’ terror attacks in Israel on Oct. 7 that killed more than 1,400 people in Israel and saw more than 220 taken hostage. Another 830 children are estimated to still be trapped in rubble in Gaza.

“The situation in the Gaza Strip is a growing stain on our collective conscience. The rate of death and injuries of children is simply staggering,” Adele Khodr, UNICEF regional director for the Middle East and North Africa, said in a statement on Tuesday.

“Almost every child in the Gaza Strip has been exposed to deeply distressing events and trauma,” UNICEF said.

  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/palestinian-children-death-trauma-israel-bombing-hamas-rcna122113

 

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This might be a „bad“ thing to say 

but i think it’s a bit irresponsible of gazans to have so many children

while they‘re in this „open air prison“ and in war/conflict with israel

Of course many kids are going to be killed when war starts, about half of the population of gaza are kids and it’s one of the densenst places

i think one dumb reason is they don’t like contraception maybe because of dumb religious reasons 

Another dumb reason is they want to grow their population compared to israel etc

Orthodox israelis also have too many children imo

of course women and children should be saved abd in camps etc 

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@PurpleTree

Let’s sterilise Palestinians, that’s a great idea. 😳

No joke, I just googled condoms in Gaza and they are banned by Israel. They were using them and balloons to send with explosives, over the border. 😳

 

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2 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

@PurpleTree

Let’s sterilise Palestinians, that’s a great idea. 😳

No joke, I just googled condoms in Gaza and they are banned by Israel. They were using them and balloons to send with explosives, over the border. 😳

 

Yes that‘s wild 😐

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“Israel Cut Off Gaza's Communications Because Murderers Don't Like Witnesses

Israeli ground forces have ramped up activities in Gaza in what anonymous US officials are reportedly telling the press is a “rolling start” to the long-anticipated ground invasion.

Israel has also concurrently crippled Gaza’s largest telecommunications service, which had been the enclave’s last remaining contact with the outside world after Israel knocked out all the others. Humanitarian organizations and mainstream press outlets now say they have lost communication with their contacts in Gaza in a level of information blackout we’re unaccustomed to seeing in modern times.”


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3 hours ago, zazen said:

Fighting a war on this basis is not only a disaster for the Palestinian people but ultimately will led to the downfall of Israel, not least because the world is seeing how Israel has total disregard for civilian lives in Gaza leading to blatant war crimes

I would say that world leaders have realized that they can do whatever they want and in a few months everything will be forgotten and public opinion will be focused on aliens or anything else. Israel will achieve its objective of devastating Gaza and expelling the Palestinians, the hatred of the Arab world towards Israel will not increase since it is currently maximum.  

The investigation into security flaws will be confusing and the conclusions will be discussed for a month or two, and then forgotten, and the objectives will have been met

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7 hours ago, Lila9 said:

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Israel has the right to have its own safe place, especially the place that its people historically rooted in for thousands of years. 

No terror is justified against Jews or Israel. Terror is never justified.

 

 

Do you think it‘s realistic that every people faith and tribe can have their own country? Probably not

should for example sikhs, alevis,kurds,mapucho, scientology etc have their own lands

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4MVMct8N9/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

If this isn't make your blood boil you are the problem.

Edit: They FAKE their deads in this video the link doesn't work.

They cover people and they are moving inside.

#pallywood 🧕🎬📽📸

 

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@Nabd Even with terror attacks Jews are safer and all around better off in Israel than in other Middle Eastern countries. This is obvious in any scenario. The important thing is that Jews have the ability to defend themselves. The descendants of the original European Zionist settlers tend to be secular, liberal and idealistic (like those who lived in the attacked Kibuttz villages) but they are the minority and increasingly so. Israel is further drifting away from the West -or- integrating into the region by becoming more religious and conservative. The simple reason is because religious people have a shit-ton of kids.
 

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2 hours ago, Nabd said:

Its funny that the creation of Israel to protect Jews threatened Jews even more. This mentality that every entity must have its state is very 18/19th century Europe and I don't think it works anyway because of globalization.

I don't think this mentality is necessary but this is because I have fantasy in my mind that all the people regardless their race or beliefs, are living with eachother without borders.

While in fact, humanity isn't there yet, it's not peaceful and conscious enough for such global ideas.

There is definitely economical globalization and globalization of information but having globalization in practice, with humanity living peacefully as a one united tribe without borders, with no danger to any culture in particular... we are far from there.

The history of Jews taught them that they must have their own country and it seems still relevant today because there is still lots of antisemitism in the world. Humanity scapegoated a few cultures and one of them is the Jewish culture.

 

 


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