New War In Israel / Gaza

[Yousif]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

love God and the others humans.

And by god you mean Jesus and no one else right? Because that’s what ALL Christians believe today, and if you tell them you’re good you’re gonna be called crazy.

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

It doesn't matter what you do, in the end you will be forgiven.

 

Do you not see how problematic this can be, imagine committing a crime and then you go tell the police that had arrested you that, they should forgive you because god or Jesus did.

 

this is how the those high teachings gets corrupted in religions, not just islam, in christianity and other faiths, you’re cheery picking the mis interpretation of islam by people, but people do they same thing with other faiths but I don’t see you mentioning it but when I do you over look it.

Maybe you have something in your heart against muslims, that’s something to work on, there are not all that bad, I suggest you befriend some and you’ll come to see that I am right.

 

 

[PurpleTree]

don’t know where to post this but it’s a bit funny 

trump does seinfeld

[Yousif]

52 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Breakingthewall 

I like a lot ibn Arabi, I think that no Christian mystic can compare to him. maybe meister eckart. but where is the quran in ibn arabi? I think he was a mystic who happened to be Muslim, but he is far beyond Islam.

They learned their mysticism through the teachings of the Quran and Mohammed, it’s a matter of misinterpretation of what is being said, you act as if you understand the religion of islam fully, it’s been a minute since I watched it but maybe Leo’s video on islam can help you.
 

 

Edited October 20, 2023 by Yousif

[Breakingthewall]

24 minutes ago, Yousif said:

And by god you mean Jesus and no one else right? Because that’s what ALL Christians believe today, and if you tell them you’re good you’re gonna be called crazy

I'm not christian, I just see that Christianity is an ideology that points to higher truths, the same as Buddhism, or the Native American stories of the great spirit for example

24 minutes ago, Yousif said:

Do you not see how problematic this can be, imagine committing a crime and then you go tell the police that had arrested you that, they should forgive you because god or Jesus did.

The police or society does not have to forgive you, it means after death , or just god forgiving you, not the law

24 minutes ago, Yousif said:

but people do they same thing with other faiths but I don’t see you mentioning it but when I do you over look it.

Maybe you have something in your heart against muslims

No, it's just because we are analyzing Islam now. If we were analyzing catholics, I  would tell you that Catholicism is false and sick shit, because it is, regardless of the fact that I have been baptized and part of my family are Catholic. That doesn't matter to me, but you can't talk bad about Islam because you feel like something yours, that's why you defend it

Edited October 20, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[PurpleTree]

Can we make a topic about mohammed?

it seems the views of him quite differ

Edited October 20, 2023 by PurpleTree

[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, Yousif said:

They learned their mysticism through the teachings of the Quran and Mohammed, it’s a matter of misinterpretation of what is being said, you act as if you understand the religion of islam fully, it’s been a minute since I watched it but maybe Leo’s video on islam can help you

Thanks, I will watch it, let's see if it helps me to understand it better. 

But Ibn Arabi didn't learn mysticism from Quran, no mystic learn mysticism, mysticism is totally direct

Edited October 20, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Leo Gura]

Most Christians are dogamtic fools. But some Christian mystics realized God.

Most Muslims are dogmatic fools. But some Muslim mystics realized Allah.

Neither the Bible nor the Quran are good tools for realizing God.

If you wish to discuss this issue further please start a new thread.

Edited October 20, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Yousif]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I'm not christian, I just see that Christianity is an ideology that points to higher truths, the same as Buddhism, or the Native American

 

The highest Truth is getting rid of all ideologies, if you can do that l, even looking at your shit inside the toilet seat can potentially cause an awakening.

so it doesn’t matter islam, christianity, Buddhism, they all have different methods of realizing the one.

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Thanks, I will watch it, let's see if it helps me to understand it better. 

But Ibn Arabi didn't learn mysticism front Quran, no mystic learn mysticism, mysticism is totally direct

I myself had awakeningings literally reading the words of jesus, Mohammed, 

islam isn’t bad neither are the people that follow it, they’re poor in these countries, they lack critical thinking therefore they’re easily brain washed to do the dirty works of militia groups paid by people that only care about their political positions and power. 

in the end nobody does anything evil because they’re evil, they’re just ignorant, and when they do evil things, they actually think they’re doing the right thing.

19 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The police or society does not have to forgive you, it means after death , or just god forgiving you, not the law

 

In muslim countries they’re so poor and underdeveloped most of them are run by a theocracy, which means that the religion of that nation is the law, which means anything that the verses say is the law

for example:- 

if that country that was run by a theocracy follow the Christian faith, a christian terrorist will emerge and starts killing, raping, stealing, and doing all kings of evil, and he would justify it by saying that god or the law said that I will be forgiven no matter what so why not do whatever the fuck I want?

this is how easy these teachings can be corrupted.

[PurpleTree]

Just now, Yousif said:

so it doesn’t matter islam, christianity, Buddhism, they all have different methods of realizing the one. 

Sure. It seems though in europe in these times, islam is holding people back more than christianity.

[Yousif]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Most Christians are dogamtic fools. But some Christian mystics realized God.

Most Muslims are dogmatic fools. But some Muslim mystics realized Allah.

Neither the Bible nor the Quran are good tools for realizing God.

Basically sums up what I’ve been trying to say

 

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

Sure. It seems though in europe in these times, islam is holding people back more than christianity.

Or even generally holding them back more. It’s like molasses for the world right now.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

So far, Hamas actually released two of the American hostages to the IDF. This has been confirmed with 100% certainty.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/20/middleeast/hamas-us-hostages-released-intl/index.html

This is a pleasant surprise.

[Yousif]

28 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Sure. It seems though in europe in these times, islam is holding people back more than christianity.

I don’t know how knowledgeable you are about non-duality, you seem to forget that there are no distractions between self and other, pointing fingers doesn’t help you, the true YOU includes the muslims and the jews and everyone and everything that you might not like, so if you finger point at anyone or anything and you have any judgment or criticism towards it, you’re only judging and criticizing yourself. 

[Yousif]

Apologizes to everyone for getting off topic.

[PurpleTree]

3 minutes ago, Yousif said:

I don’t know how knowledgeable you are about non-duality, you seem to forget that there are no distractions between self and other, pointing fingers doesn’t help you, the true YOU includes the muslims and the jews and everyone and everything that you might not like, so if you finger point at anyone or anything and you have any judgment or criticism towards it, you’re only judging and criticizing yourself. 

Sure it also includes rapists, pedophiles, post stamp collectors, the burger that you‘re eating. Everything

that doesn‘t mean that some ideas aren’t holding society back more than others

also i don’t claim to be awake, i don’t really embody/live from a nondual perspective. I‘ve had quite many glimpses but it’s not enough 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

On 10/18/2023 at 1:29 AM, Leo Gura said:

Even if Palestine gets some form of democratic self-rule, it's gonna be a weak democracy at best. Look at the US. We are barely keeping our democracy intact today. How easily could Palestinian democracy get hijacked by Islamists? Very easily with the help of Iran. This is a legit concern for Netanyahu.

Such a country already exists, Pakistan.

Pakistan is alleged to be a safe haven for terrorist groups including:

• Al-Qaeda
• Lashkar-e-Omar
• Lashkar-e-Taiba 
• Jaish-e-Mohammed 
• Sipah-e-Sahaba
• Jaish ul-Adl
• Al Badr Mujahideen
• Harkat ul Mujahideen
• ISIS-KP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

[Yousif]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Sure it also includes rapists, pedophiles, post stamp collectors, the burger that you‘re eating. Everything

that doesn‘t mean that some ideas aren’t holding society back more than others

also i don’t claim to be awake, i don’t really embody/live from a nondual perspective. I‘ve had quite many glimpses but it’s not enough 

Society is exactly where it needs to be, the godhead is the running the show, when it’s time for these old ideas to go away they will.

reality is perfect, you’re speaking as if you can do better than god.

work on becoming more conscious, you’ll then realize there are no mistakes, that includes people holding us back.

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Yousif said:

Society is exactly where it needs to be, the godhead is the running the show, when it’s time for these old ideas to go away they will.

reality is perfect, you’re speaking as if you can do better than god.

work on becoming more conscious, you’ll then realize there are no mistakes, that includes people holding us back.

Ok well then we can close down this section of the forum. If everything is perfect then nothing is needed to be said or discussed. Especially politics etc
 

Also when i think islam is molasses for europe it‘s a perfect thought since everything is perfect, it’s a thought from god

[Yousif]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Ok well then we can close down this section of the forum. If everything is perfect then nothing is needed to be said or discussed. Especially politics etc
 

Also when i think islam is molasses for europe it‘s a perfect thought since everything is perfect, it’s a thought from god

You’re perfect, even in your ignorance yes.

[StarStruck]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Most Christians are dogamtic fools. But some Christian mystics realized God.

Most Muslims are dogmatic fools. But some Muslim mystics realized Allah.

Neither the Bible nor the Quran are good tools for realizing God.

If you wish to discuss this issue further please start a new thread.

Would be a great topic for a video. Gnostics take the best of all religions.