Posted October 17, 2023 @Leo Gura 26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: It's unclear yet who caused this bombing. BBC and Reuters already confirmed it was massive explosion by an Israeli strike using an american-made 1000kg weapon Besides that... the damage is already done. Goodbye normalization... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tobia said: @Leo Gura BBC and Reuters already confirmed it was massive explosion by an Israeli strike using an american-made 1000kg weapon Besides that... the damage is already done. Goodbye normalization... Nothing was confirmed. You guys are so blatantly biased, how can you not be ashamed considering the forum you are on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 In my opinion, the most important issue for the world to focus on is trauma – both collective and individual. Without this being addressed, talk of awakening and enlightnment is self-indulgent blabber. You have to learn to walk before you can run. Collective Trauma and the Social Construction of Meaning https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6095989/ Healing Collective Trauma https://thomashuebl.com/healing-collective-trauma-video/ Relational Processess in Ayahuasca Groups of Palestinians and Israelis https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8170481/ Vincit omnia Veritas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 Piers Morgan is surprisingly reasonable and balanced in all this. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: Piers Morgan is surprisingly reasonable and balanced in all this. You mean with just in this last interview or all of him interview people about the Israel-Palestinian war? I liked the arguments he used in the last interview. Bassem is definitely sounding crazy, but he’s speaking more generally about the entirety of conflict/struggle of Israel-Palestine not just what’s going on now, and poor Pier is taking all of it. Edited October 18, 2023 by Happy Lizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 @Leo Gura 48 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: Piers Morgan is surprisingly reasonable and balanced in all this. Your take of Jordan Peterson's view? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Happy Lizard said: You mean with just the in this last interview or all of him interview people about the Israel-Palestinian war? All the stuff I've seen from him on this issue has been reasonable and balanced. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) it’s so easy to pick sides, yet also so hard not to see the strongest in this conflict going haywire on blind revenge. All the lives of those innocent people are in the hands of powers that are indifferent to them and their struggles. If anything I hope more Arabs start seeing how criminal Hamas are in all of this and their crime against their own people as much as all those Jewish victims. Those sons of bitches knew all of this was coming. Edited October 18, 2023 by Happy Lizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) According to The Times of Israel, Bibi allegedly has been secretly working with Hamas for many years and used them as part of his plan to divide and conquer the entire West Bank and Gaza strip. That means that he wanted Hamas to launch their attack on Israel in order to effectively pin the blame on Palestinian Authority and all of the Palestinians, thereby giving him a pretext for invading all of Gaza and the West Bank. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/?fbclid=IwAR1Il86r4Jm9_AQ2mXZ_EZO4MhOyJQfph-uXOALr5CP13u05GjqmAfFA4vk https://www.npr.org/2023/10/11/1204923717/israel-gaza-hamas-palestinian-war "The goal for Netanyahu, according to Schneider, was to avoid the building of a future Palestinian state at any cost. And he did that in the way he approached Hamas, by allowing cash to flow into Gaza, which is ruled by Hamas, and making deals with the militants via Egypt." Is this really true?! Edited October 18, 2023 by Hardkill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 It's all wrong, all of it. And it's dragging the world into it. It's all wrong. Hamas, Israel, the US, Iran, it's all wrong. Stop it! You are all freaking nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Look, a tornado, earthquake, heat domes, floods, pestilence, who ++++ it all up! Edited October 18, 2023 by Sir Oberon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Happy Lizard said: it’s so easy to pick sides, yet also so hard not to see the strongest in this conflict going haywire on blind revenge. All the lives of those innocent people are in the hands of powers that are indifferent to them and their struggles. If anything I hope more Arabs start seeing how criminal Hamas are in all of this and their crime against their own people as much as all those Jewish victims. Those sons of bitches knew all of this was coming. Hamas did nothing to prepare Gaza for this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, Hardkill said: Is this really true?! Reports are that he wanted Hamas to lead Gaza to try and make Gaza and West Bank not cooperate and hurt the PLO which was pushing for a Palestinian state. I highly doubt he wanted this attack to happen, tons of people are asking him to resign, he underestimated Hamas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 Do you see what's going on? Propaganda is so thick it makes me sick, I don't read the news with any purpose in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Turning now to the four corners of the earth, show us the way out of this dark path. I am God, we are God, and all are one. Boom. Edited October 18, 2023 by Sir Oberon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 6 hours ago, hundreth said: Do you know the history? They rejected the UN partition which would have given them 50% of the land 8 hours ago, Scholar said: That happened in 1947. Is it a reason to continue occupying their lands now? How do you justify expansionism in the West Bank? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Netanyahu's plan was to have Palesitine as an autonomous region but without a military, because he thinks it would be used to attack Israel. Frankly, this is a valid concern. What is meant by "give Palestine a state" is simply, give them a military with control over air space. Netanyahu refuses to give them air space control because then they might bomb Israel with planes or invade with tanks. This does not make Netanyahu some monster. He has a right to worry about what radicals in Palestine might do with a proper military. None of this is some secret. Netanyahu publically states these concerns in interviews. See here: Edited October 18, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: Netanyahu's plan was to have Palesitine as an autonomous region but without a military, because he thinks it would be used to attack Israel. Frankly, this is a valid concern. What is meant by "give Palestine a state" is simply, give them a military with control over air space. Netanyahu refuses to give them air space control because then they might bomb Israel with planes or invade with tanks. This does not make Natenyahu some monster. He has a right to worry about what radicals in Palestine might do with a proper military. Israeli occupation not allowing a Palestinian state with a military etc helps fuel terrorism. However now can they be trusted with the rights of a full state? Becomes a vicious catch 22 that I don’t know how gets solved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
