New War In Israel / Gaza

[Hatfort]

The Israeli government never wanted a two-state solution, that would already exist if they really had wanted it, it was up to them. They push Palestinians at a constant pace until they respond with violence too, and they get the pretext to continue further with their Zionist agenda, building more settlements and killing more Palestinians. We've seen the pattern.

The solution is a secular democratic country named Palestine because Israel is a name only for Jews, so it's not the appropriate one. Palestine is not a Muslim name, it's the name of the land, remember Christians live there too. Total separation of religion and state by law, with individual and collective freedom to practice whatever religion each believes in. Equal rights and obligations for everyone. Reparations too, the harm caused to the non-Jewish has left them in extreme poverty, it could be internationally provided. Also for Jewish victims, because there are, but they are already getting it. The right to come back for all refugees. Build bridges, respect and celebrate diversity.

The international power community is sided with The Israeli government, so it won't happen. But more and more common people are siding with the Palestinians, the younger generations, the more. People are not blind.

Another solution is to create the Zionist dream in a country that accepts it. My suggestion is in the middle of the USA because they totally support them. We move all South Dakotans to North Dakota and we call it just Dakota. Then we name that piece of land New Israel, or whatever they want, and we move every Zionist there. Problem solved. It's a joke, but it's not.

[Scholar]

7 minutes ago, Hatfort said:

The Israeli government never wanted a two-state solution, that would already exist if they really had wanted it, it was up to them. They push Palestinians at a constant pace until they respond with violence too, and they get the pretext to continue further with their Zionist agenda, building more settlements and killing more Palestinians. We've seen the pattern.

The solution is a secular democratic country named Palestine because Israel is a name only for Jews, so it's not the appropriate one. Palestine is not a Muslim name, it's the name of the land, remember Christians live there too. Total separation of religion and state by law, with individual and collective freedom to practice whatever religion each believes in. Equal rights and obligations for everyone. Reparations too, the harm caused to the non-Jewish has left them in extreme poverty, it could be internationally provided. Also for Jewish victims, because there are, but they are already getting it. The right to come back for all refugees. Build bridges, respect and celebrate diversity.

The international power community is sided with The Israeli government, so it won't happen. But more and more common people are siding with the Palestinians, the younger generations, the more. People are not blind.

Another solution is to create the Zionist dream in a country that accepts it. My suggestion is in the middle of the USA because they totally support them. We move all South Dakotans to North Dakota and we call it just Dakota. Then we name that piece of land New Israel, or whatever they want, and we move every Zionist there. Problem solved. It's a joke, but it's not.

This kind of talk is going to get a lot of people killed.

[BlackPhil]

1 hour ago, Scholar said:

Palestinian children in UN funded schools are being indoctrinated into actual antisemitism, made to fantasize about how to murder jews (not israeli's, jews), and how they are their enemies. This has been going on for years and years now.

https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/antisemitismus-an-palaestinensischen-schulen-deutschland-zahlt-weiter-fuer-juden-83613256.bild.html

 

The palestinians hatred for the jews goes beyond mere mistreatment at this point. All the socialists you see on the internet talking about a one-sided analysis that seeks to put all blame on Israel are profoundly ignorant of how deep this problem goes.

Yeah, look at this TV-show for children in Palestine. Its all about how to attack and kill Jews:

People dont seem to understand that this goes way deeper than just some fight about land... The "axis powers" of Russia, Iran, Turkey etc. are all involved with this and its all a preparation for some kind of global war against Zionism (and the West).

Radicalised, indoctrinated Islamists are being used as some kind of attack dogs/suicide troops.

 

Edited October 13, 2023 by BlackPhil

[Scholar]

 

[Socrates]

 

[PurpleTree]

Palestinian Christians are you willing to forgive Israelis?

[Scholar]

4 minutes ago, Socrates said:

 

I hope you can see how biased this is.

[Danioover9000]

@Nabd

3 minutes ago, Nabd said:

Funniest thing is that today Iranian prime minister was on a plane almost landing in Syria. Israel attacked the airports and they went out of service which forced the prime minister to return to Iran lmao

   Jeez, and this is assuming when Israel attacked the airports that it damaged the landing roads.?

[PurpleTree]

humans are retarded, it’s a miracle that we made it this far

 

[Scholar]

12 minutes ago, Nabd said:

There are many questions regarding this recent attack but the most important two are:

1. Why did Hamas choose to share the footage like this? They alienated everyone from western camp and they surely know the consequences.

2. Why didn't they plan for the Israeli response?

They planned for this attack for months at the very least if not even years. How come they immediately ran out of fuel and food? Wouldn't it be part of the plan to actually stockpile for like a month of being sieged?

 

- Hamas leadership wants to garner support by showing weakness in the Israeli state. Showing the arab world the killing of israelis achieves that goal in their eyes.

- Hamas was losing relevancy as Israel was improving relationships with arab states, threatening Hamas organizational structure in the long term

- Hamas hopes to provoke a holy war that involves other arab states

- Outside actors like Iran might simply seek to create tension between arab nations and Israel after relationships started improving, including between Saudi Arabia and Israel

- Hamas does not care about palestinian civilian death and suffering at all, they encourage civilian deaths so they garner more support among islamists.

- Palestinians and the gaza strip as a whole are used as pawns by Hamas leadership, using their frustration against Israel for their own goals. Remember, Ismail Haniyeh Emerges, supposed leader of the Hamas terrorists, lives in Qatar, seemingly in luxury. It could be that the entire attack was a ploy to garner financial support as well.

- Hamas hoped they would hold negotating power using hostages

Edited October 13, 2023 by Scholar

[Jodistrict]

Israeli Journalist Gideon Levy: Israel Should Lift Siege & Call Off Plans for Ground Invasion of Gaza

 

https://www.democracynow.org/2023/10/11/gideon_levy_gaza_war_israel_hamas?autostart=true

 

 

[Leo Gura]

Good example of when the left/Green goes too far:

The limits of Green become very obvious.

Edited October 13, 2023 by Leo Gura

[abundance]

This is just cruel and inhumane.

Israel has a right to protect itself but this is just collective punishment, plain and simple.

 

Edited October 13, 2023 by abundance

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@Bandman Virtue signal snakes everywhere.

when you got a friend hungry you feed him, you don't record yourself and explain how awesome you did him two big sandwichs.

that's not wisdom, I m such a bitch that I got no friends & I m not even good at sandwiches.

[An young being]

10 hours ago, nuwu said:

Pain and tears aside, how much conflicts should civilization tolerate for a comfortable global order? What is the optimal state of civilization, considering the limitation of bias structures and stage of growth?

The state when aliens start to attack Earth

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@Bandman  good, don't worry for me, keep going, just makes the love more real.

[Breakingthewall]

that 2000 years ago, in Israel, in a society where thieves were crucified after being forced to carry their cross with whips while everyone laughed and insulted them, a religion arose that had as its premise: forgive those who offend you, love to your enemy. It is a miracle. Without this, we would never have moved forward as a society.

[An young being]

22 minutes ago, nuwu said:

@AerisVahnEphelia

@An young being Advanced non-human species certainly have cosmic mass-destruction weapons capable of annihilating humanity with no chance of riposting or semblance of war, without considering space-time morphing technologies. 

Then I hope it's just a cold war

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, Nabd said:

It seems once you become a member god immediately punish you with debuff to IQ

? I think that's not the case, they give you a test and it has to be below 70 to be admitted.

[Hardkill]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Good example of when the left/Green goes too far:

The limits of Green become very obvious.

Yeah, those first few people he mentioned who wrote those angry emails to them and cancelled their membership, must seriously be out of their minds and/or are dumb.

Edited October 13, 2023 by Hardkill