Posted October 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, nuwu said: how much conflicts should civilization tolerate for a comfortable global order? None violent conflicts really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 What a total mess this is. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) @Scholar 53 minutes ago, Scholar said: Okay pedantoid. Your whole post here in this thread, has more leniency to Israel and less to Palestine. Basically, your argument is this: HAMAs evil, and because HAMAs in Gaza, in Palestine, so Palestine bad. Because HAMA use rocket to Israel bad, Israel retaliation good, also Israel fighting many Arab neighbors therefore Israel good guy, so if Israel wipe HAMAs and shrink Palestine land more, Israel still good guy. Meanwhile appeals to and pivots to Nuance bro. Edited October 12, 2023 by Danioover9000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: What a total mess this is. Imagine that you are the leader of Israel. what would you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said: Imagine that you are the leader of Israel. what would you do? I would do an invasion to take out Hamas but not do so much air bombing. I don't think the air bombing is that effective for taking out Hamas and will radicalize too many Palestinians in the future. Edited October 12, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: I would do an invasion to take out Hamas but not do so much air bombing. I don't think the air bombing is that effective for taking out Hamas. Imagine going into a city of 2 million inhabitants with Hamas waiting... it would be hell. I think they bomb because they don't dare to enter until everything is crushed. And how to find out who is from Hamas? Surely there will be many thousands of men willing to fight. maybe 50 thousand? The mental state of the people of Gaza now is difficult to imagine. a kind of nightmare. Edited October 12, 2023 by Breakingthewall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said: And how to find out who is from Hamas? Basically anyone shooting at Israelis can be considered Hamas. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) @BlackPhil Religious dogmatism not allowed. Please review our forum guidelines. Quote What’s NOT Allowed: Religious activism or dogmatic promotion of any religious belief system Edit: Removed related posts because of derailing. Edited October 12, 2023 by Sincerity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 Palestinian journalist documenting her days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: Basically anyone shooting at Israelis can be considered Hamas. I think that the only solution is to bomb, warning of the areas that are going to be destroyed every day, so that they can evacuate them, destroying the city, killing the minimum number of people possible until everyone is grouped in an area without buildings, in a state of hunger and terrible weakness, and there capture all the men, and after that find out who the leaders are and execute them. A shit of Dantesque proportions that would prevent me from sleeping for the rest of my life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 « idf elite unit rescues around 250 hostages alive « Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Warning: Do not post radical nonsense in this thread. Be sensible. Edited October 12, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said: « idf elite unit rescues around 250 hostages alive « Seems legit, (not 100% sure). Though to be clear these are not the hostages kidnapped to Gaza. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 @Breakingthewall The conflict will end when all people who identify as being of a specific religion or tribe cease to do so. nowhere in the bio @VahnAeris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) I read somewhere that Hamas are underground and that the IDF are well aware of that. Thus, bombing buildings isn’t effective in eliminating them and only killing innocents - yet they still go ahead. Palestinians were told to leave but then the only way out was bombed also. They are backed into the corner, what else can they do. This is only traumatising and radicalising the next wave of fighters to come in a vicious cycle as Leo has mentioned. Marginalisation leads to radicalisation. In a ground invasion of Gaza the IDF will struggle. Urban warfare is messy and advantages the home turf fighters over the invaders. The highest casualties and bloodiest fights happened in Bakhmut, Marioupol for example and likewise the US never succeeded in Afghanistan also - fighting a people who are motivated and have nothing left to lose. Bibi can’t be seen to be weak as his main image has been Mr.Strong and especially not after being humiliated by the breach of their secure border by Hamas who are much less weaker. The trouble is, their will be many Palestinian casualties that increase the pressure from other nations to condemn Israel further isolating it, and urge Hezbollah to get involved meaning their in for a two front war. That potentiates Iran, Syria possibly Russia and Turkey. Then Israel’s allies the US and NATO come in essentially becoming WW3. It seems Hamas / Palestinians and Muslims are being labeled collectively as evil hate filled people by some in this thread whilst being blind to the atrocities of Western power or the state of Israel - vary your sources and don’t be duped by propaganda. Edited October 12, 2023 by zazen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 Its crazy whats going on on twitter. I mean twitter was always a shithole, but now "everything I don't agree with is AI generated". People are using AI image detectors as if they were reliable and then use that to confidently dismiss things they disagree with(this obviously goes for both sides). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, zazen said: Then Israel’s allies the US and NATO come in essentially becoming WW3. Don't blow things out of proportion. This is nowhere WW3. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 Israel should put high bounties on the hamas guys, maybe like that palestinians could take the money and move on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 True, ww3 is an over exaggeration but more like a worldly war that will have worldly implications that ripple out. If Iran get involved and oils prices inflate pushing energy markets skyward, that’s more inflation and all the economic chaos that ensues. Or Palestinians fleeing into Egypt and destabilising Egypt exacerbating the migration crises in Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 Palestinian children in UN funded schools are being indoctrinated into actual antisemitism, made to fantasize about how to murder jews (not israeli's, jews), and how they are their enemies. This has been going on for years and years now. https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/antisemitismus-an-palaestinensischen-schulen-deutschland-zahlt-weiter-fuer-juden-83613256.bild.html The palestinians hatred for the jews goes beyond mere mistreatment at this point. All the socialists you see on the internet talking about a one-sided analysis that seeks to put all blame on Israel are profoundly ignorant of how deep this problem goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
