Posted October 11, 2023 https://old.reddit.com/r/list_palestine/comments/l43xgk/megalist_israels_crimes_controversies_full/?share_id=VcxL6jILyQh1WC1JHgiuL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 11, 2023 11 hours ago, Leo Gura said: I'm not looking to justify anything. I'm interested in seeing all the perspectives and nuance I come from a pro israel country but honestly how can someone support Israel? It makes 0 sense to me. Of course terrorism is bad but the way they have treated Palestinians for over 70 years is just awful. What do you expect? How come their constant war crimes are always ignored while one time that it happens to them everyone looses their shit? I saw in 2014 there were like 2000 Palestinians dead, more than half civilians, compared to 50 Israeli soldiers. It shows how UN and all these international world organizations really turn a blind eye to Israel and give it favourable treatment. We have yet to evolve to a true objective wordily institutions. Right now it is as if the Supreme Court turns a blind eye when it is a powerful politican being trialed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 11, 2023 They should unite in one state and people who lost their family members should live like kings. Jews can't go back, they are so radical about the bible. Hamas has to disappear if they want good for Palestinians. They should keep in mind that Muslims will conquer the world in peace anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Karmadhi said: How come their constant war crimes are always ignored while one time that it happens to them everyone looses their shit? That's not true. Israel gets plenty of criticism for killing civilians. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: That's not true. Israel gets plenty of criticism for killing civilians. Rarely in the mainstream media or by government bodies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) This is so cruel. Look at what Hamas did in Israel. They deliberately slaughtered the heads of babies. Raped women. Killed old people. Burned people alive. They have performed devilry equal to medieval times. They did this with intention and great laughter and happiness. They would have continued if they hadn't been stopped by the Israeli army. They are fueled by pure hatred towards Israel and the Jewish people. They are terrorists, and nothing can justify what they have done. Nothing. This is pure cruelty. Hamas is a corrupted organization that doesn't care about Palestine or Palestinians. They are religious fanatics. Gaza receives so much money from the world to improve the lives of Palestinian people, but Hamas uses it to create more weapons to kill people, and they use their people as shields. If not for Hamas, maybe Israel and Palestine could find some resolution. Maybe. Maybe innocent people wouldn't have been killed. It's amazing that Palestinian terrorists (who killed Israeli people, families, children) receive such good treatment in Israel, including medical care in the best hospitals and good prison conditions, yet the world still complains about Israel's integrity. Israel is the only and the most integrated country in the Middle East. Instead of supporting it, they support Palestinian terrorists and Islamic radical fundamentalists who have convinced them that they are the biggest victims. Edited October 11, 2023 by Lila9 👽 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 Just wondering, Would Hamas have ever agreed to a two-state solution? And it makes me wonder why the Israelis did not see this coming, ulterior motives? Why is the US so fast to zoom in with battleships, I guess Israel is at risk of a much wider theater of war. Will Iran and the rest step in, that's when this gets biblical, or so some think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) And the UN has been condemning the Israeli approach to this war. Although I can understand their side, does it justify annexing Gaza to eradicate Hamas.. OK, just picked up on the bookmarked thing, guess this thread is done, cheers. Edited October 12, 2023 by Sir Oberon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 @Yimpa in that video, the old couple that talked the terrorists out of killing them? geez, they were lucky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 @Merkabah Star Food brings people together ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 @Yimpa I do have a soft spot for chicken and rice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Juressic said: They should keep in mind that Muslims will conquer the world in peace anyway. That is what Muslims think, that they will conquer the world by reproducing more and expanding , since by the force they have proven that they are weaker, and thus be able to subjugate all the women in the world. Since true Muslims are men, women are just slaves. It sounds stupid but it's what they think (Islam is above all deeply stupid) . They will never achieve it, on the contrary, I would say that they will be expelled from Europe. Countries like France and Sweden will wake up to the fact that they have the enemy at home. Edited October 12, 2023 by Breakingthewall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 "Colonialism is not a thinking machine, nor a body endowed with reasoning faculties. It is violence in its natural state, and it will only yield when confronted with greater violence” ~Frantz Fanon "The wise seek wisdom, a fool has found it." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 @Breakingthewall You clearly have no idea about the essence of Islam. You’re one of those crude fellas who base their opinions on straw-man arguments. Get nuanced, fella. "The wise seek wisdom, a fool has found it." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 13 hours ago, Nabd said: Finally someone gets it. But the average salary in Syria is actually $15 a month. Over 95% of the population are in poverty and many people would lose some fingers in order to live in Gaza. Or maybe sell a kidney and move to the west bank. Palestinians have it good compared to Syria, both in Gaza and in the west bank when you compare casualties and income even since the 1948. But the difference is the perpetrators in Palestine are Jews, while in Syria its Russia, Iran, Hizballa and some Palestinians axis of resistance who actively killed Palestinians. There are a lot of lies surrounding this conflict which is what makes it complicated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 Completely irrelevant to the actual war, but I find it fascinating how I made the following post on September 26… 11 days before this war started. September is the 9th month. 9/11 At least 260 killed at the music festival. I don’t condone conspiracy theories… just my imagination at play here ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 9 hours ago, Leo Gura said: That's not true. Israel gets plenty of criticism for killing civilians. How many sanctions have been put on Israel like they have been put on Iran or Russia? Iran is not even killing anyone and is more sanctioned. How many Israeli leaders or military have been trialed for war crimes? Saying "this is bad" in TikTok is not the same as actual punitive measures being taken against a country. Look at how much non western countries get punished when they do anything slightly "bad" and compare it with Israel. Heck how is that Iran is more sanctioned than Israel baffles me in itself. I dont see them invading nor killing anyone. How is that Saudi Arabia can behead 20 of its own citizens openly and nobody talks about "human rights" but when it comes to Iran they are the first to be vocal about it. The double standards are immense here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) What you have to keep in mind that all military activity results in some degree of collateral damage. That isn't a mistake, that's the nature of war. Civilians always die and there are always war crimes. The question is to what degree and how to minimize it. But you cannot reduce it to zero. So it is unrealistic to expect Israel military to commit zero war crimes. The problem is that Hamas fights in a way that has zero restraint at all, so they lose any right to complain at that point. Edited October 12, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
