Posted October 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Vrubel said: Overconfidence and a general atmosphere of lack of deterrence due to the current Israeli government being filled with incompetent, divisive and extremist politicians. Arabs could sense the vibe of deteriorating order in their bones. Agree. The current government we have is a hugh problem. 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Nabd said: The moment he denied that Hamas killed civilans, I stopped watching. Yeah, that guy is in denial. They def do terrorism. Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 @Leo Gura They are really not rational in their minds. All they care about is killing and slaughtering Israelis, even by means of suicide, collective suicides, hurting their own people. It's like this is their moral. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) It's pretty simple why terrorism is done: because your enemy's military is impossible to defeat in conventional warfare. Paragliders vs F-35s. It's like Ewoks fighting stormtroopers. There is even a scene where Ewoks use a glider to drop rocks on an AT-ST. Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Leo Gura said: It's pretty simple why terrorism is done: because your enemy's military is impossible to defeat in conventional warfare. terrorism is the only defense mechanism they have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Leo Gura said: It's pretty simple why terrorism is done: because your enemy's military is impossible to defeat in conventional warfare. This and being a stage red savage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Vrubel said: This and being a stage red savage Yea, so now you have a license to kill those savages. Go nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 @Vrubel you guys need to learn to apply spiral dynamics wisely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nabd said: Listen, I am too old to waste my time on this bullshit, it is like an infinite pool of shit That's my attitude towards Western philosophy War and conflict is worthwhile to contemplate though because it has broad applications. Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nabd said: I once asked Slavoj Zizek a question regarding middle eastern politics, he replied with "Listen, I am too old to waste my time on this bullshit, it is like an infinite pool of shit, here I am totally racist and I prefer to ignore this part of the world and you should too!". In some ways it’s probably better to ignore otherwise we will just get sucked into the hurricane of hate one way or the other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: It's pretty simple why terrorism is done: because your enemy's military is impossible to defeat in conventional warfare. Paragliders vs F-35s. It's like Ewoks fighting stormtroopers. But they treat their own people very similarly! Their mentality / value system is, in my opinion, the main factor. 🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Nivsch said: But they treat their own people very similarly! Their mentality / value system is, in my opinion, the main factor. They definitely suffer from under-development. That's what makes this conflict so stubborn. The Spiral stage differences lead to difficult asymmetries. These asymmetries need to be carefully weighed, which isn't easy to do. Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 I listened to him for a while he says so e interesting and funny stuff (even bought a book but haven’t read it ) but now i’m kind of not interested in it anymore, also he touches his nose 20 times per minute Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Nabd said: I find him one of the most thought provoking philosophers, like hot knife through butter. I listen to him talk on all sorts of topics and never is anything made clearer, only more confusing. Lol. Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) There he is the nose boy Edited October 8, 2023 by PurpleTree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nabd said: The problem is one need a good grasp of Lacan and Hegel to understand his philosophical takes, and I am not really sure if its worth it tbh. But when he talks about politics I actually think he is easier to understand. He is a communist in the sense that we need to find an alternative to capitalism because it clearly is not sustainable when it comes to ecology and corona like events. Yea the Zizek book i bought is about Lacan but i don’t know much about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Nabd said: He is a communist in the sense that we need to find an alternative to capitalism This is so stupid tho. Communism is not an alternative to capitalism. It is a ridiculous dead end. It is easier to solve the Israeli-Palestine problem than to understand Lacan. Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) @Nabd I know he uses the term Communism in a playful way and means globalism. But even so, calling it Communism is a really bad move. That would be like if I called my stage Yellow solution to capitalism Nazism. Let's be Nazis, but minus all the bad stuff that Nazis did. He is too far up his own ass with the Communism references. Communism was an utter disaster of an ideology and should never be spoken of again. Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
