Andrew Tate on pick up

[LiakosN]

What is your opinion on this one? 

It goes against of what Leo is saying on picking up girls in a mall.. Heh..

 

Edited October 6, 2023 by LiakosN

[Spiral]

I typically don’t share his opinions but in this case I do

Game is just pretending to be something you’re not.

[NoSelfSelf]

@Spiral Game is you what are you talking about ?

[Danioover9000]

@Spiral

4 hours ago, Spiral said:

I typically don’t share his opinions but in this case I do

Game is just pretending to be something you’re not.

   Agreed. Game is for men pretending, serious is for women depending.

[Spiral]

@NoSelfSelf No the girl with the silly hat is right.

[Raze]

Worthless video filled with weak arguments and platitudes, but a great way to excuse yourself from taking action.

[Spiral]

12 hours ago, Raze said:

Worthless video filled with weak arguments and platitudes, but a great way to excuse yourself from taking action.

Have you ever seen a man who’s really got his shit together be unable to get a girl?
 

Assuming he does not have disabilities.

I certainly have not.

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Spiral said:

Have you ever seen a man who’s really got his shit together be unable to get a girl?
 

Assuming he does not have disabilities.

I certainly have not.

Yes I have. The simps who donate huge amounts of money to live streamers and only fan girls are usually very wealthy but do it because it’s their only avenue for female attention.

also, what happens if you go through tough times, just give up and never have a chance to get a girl?

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Raze said:

Yes I have. The simps who donate huge amounts of money to live streamers and only fan girls are usually very wealthy but do it because it’s their only avenue for female attention.

You consider that “having your shit together” ?

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, Spiral said:

Have you ever seen a man who’s really got his shit together be unable to get a girl?

Yes, of course.

It doesn't matter how much you have your shit together, if you do not socialize or don't know how to socialize, you will never get laid.

Pickup is important in that it forces you to learn to socialize.

People who are extroverts or who are naturally social cannot understand such problems.

Also, if you live in the wrong areas getting laid will be very difficult. You need to move to where great socialization exists. It doesn't exist everywhere.

Edited October 7, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, Raze said:

Yes I have. The simps who donate huge amounts of money to live streamers and only fan girls are usually very wealthy but do it because it’s their only avenue for female attention.

That's not true. Not specifically for Only Fans but in general, the common denominator I find with established men who see these kinds of girls is not that they don't have female attention, but their female counterparts are not willing to do the freaky stuff they like or require to get them excited. I wish people would stop thinking the men who see these types of women can't get laid or don't have female attention, it's more so that they get bored with their wives or gfs and want variety without the commitment. Plus, very wealthy men aren't out here on Only Fans. Most don't even know what that is

Guys who can't get women's attention or more so who don't have gfs are out there busy trying to get a girlfriend or wife, then when they get bored with them they either cheat or go see hookers or whatever girls. Cam guys just don't feel like being bothered with real relationships, not that they can't get female attention. Of course, I'm generalizing and it's not always the case, but there's a dynamic to this shit.

Somebody needs to invent a Spiral Dynamic Model for Adult Entertainment, the different kinds, the people that engage in this type of life, the different kinds of personalities and character traits and the development of their relationships' status and how there's a system involved and not just because men are lonely, fat, old, bald or can't get laid. Maybe I will, with Leo's help, and we'll be the next Beck, Cowan and Graves.

Edited October 7, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Spiral]

@Raze@Leo Gura

Well then they don’t have their shit together. Having ones shit together doesn’t mean being rich.

Back in the day guys would persuade the respect of their fellow man rather than the affection of girls. 

To be apart of something greater and work towards a common goals. These days we’re just atomized and sitting at home working on ourself if at all. We don’t care about our day jobs, it’s just money.

Then we complain that no girl what’s to be apart of our life. That they lose their respect for us and our relationships don’t pass the test of time.

Even if you are introvert(I am too) you still need to be apart of a Brotherhood and I don’t mean online.

Not just have some guy friends who you hang out with because you share a common interest. Who you would stop hanging out with if they got a girlfriend and lost interest in going out picking up girls with you. That’s not really a friend anyway.

Edited October 8, 2023 by Spiral

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Spiral said:

Well then they don’t have their shit together

By that logic most people need a lot of work to get their shit together.

[Spiral]

@Leo Gura Yup

[Danioover9000]

@Raze

On 06/10/2023 at 11:06 PM, Raze said:

Worthless video filled with weak arguments and platitudes, but a great way to excuse yourself from taking action.

   Could you elaborate on the weak arguments and platitudes?

[Juan]

On 10/7/2023 at 9:21 AM, Raze said:

The simps who donate huge amounts of money to live streamers and only fan girls are usually very wealthy but do it because it’s their only avenue for female attention.

@Princess Arabia He is not wrong, but also you’re not wrong about them wanting to look freaky stuff. There are also people who believe that by hooking up with someone it will “save their marriage” which is completely bollocks. 

On 10/7/2023 at 1:40 PM, Princess Arabia said:

Guys who can't get women's attention or more so who don't have gfs are out there busy trying to get a girlfriend or wife

Not true at all, there are plently of guys that can’t hook up so they pay to get some attention. 

On 10/7/2023 at 1:40 PM, Princess Arabia said:

Somebody needs to invent a Spiral Dynamic Model for Adult Entertainment

Sounds like a very STICKY idea. 

Edited October 9, 2023 by Juan

[Princess Arabia]

25 minutes ago, Juan said:

@Princess Arabia He is not wrong, but also you’re not wrong about them wanting to look freaky stuff. There are also people who believe that by hooking up with someone it will “save their marriage” which is completely bollocks. 

Not true at all, there are plenty of guys that can’t hook up so they pay to get some attention. 

Sounds like a very STICKY idea. 

Forget about the SD thing, I was kidding on that. Wealthy men are not on Only Fans. Only Fans is for the average guy who has a few bucks to spare, even if it's hundreds or a few thousand for the rare exception. Wealthy men don't need Only Fans. That's not the style of wealthy men, and by that I mean millionaires. All others vary, but the majority aren't single. 90% of guys that see hookers aren't single. You'll mostly find single guys in Strip Clubs and for the most part engaging in more of a party-style adult entertainment or on dating sites like Tinder or Bumble.

Yes, some single guys go to hookers but not mostly because of loneliness or lack of the ability to hook-up. A single guy will put the energy in to find a regular girl to hook-up with before he goes to a hooker. They usually go to the hooker after they're in a relationship or got married. He will secure that first. When you watch cops or those shows on tv where the guys get busted, don't you see they're usually married and worried about their wives finding out. All these politicians, police, fire men, blue collar workers are mostly married and a bunch of them see hookers. 

Trust me, the majority of guys that see hookers are not single and it's not usually because their marriage is in jeopardy. Men like variety and get bored with their partners plus some men get better treatment from hookers than their wives sexually who won't do certain things. We find all these excuses why men see hookers but forget that it's usually because they just simply can and we think it's because they are lonely and desperate, or fat ugly or bald. That's just usually not the case, but of course there are exceptions but only the minority. If a single guy is out seeking hookers, it's more than likely because he's not interested in a relationship just yet.

Single guys who can't hook up or are having a hard time doing so, will either give up, go watch porn, go to a strip club, keep working at finding a gf or ONS, go INCEL or just downright get depressed and stay home cursing women and watching Red pill shit. Very few will go see hookers, and if they do, it's not for long. I know, I'm in the business. 

 

[Juan]

44 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

90% of guys that see hookers aren't single.

That’s sad, I value a lot my relationships so I rather break up first before connecting with another person.

49 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm in the business. 

Thanks a lot for your input, of course I don’t know a lot about the logistics even more at first hand.

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Juan said:

That’s sad, I value a lot my relationships so I rather break up first before connecting with another person.

Thanks a lot for your input, of course I don’t know a lot about the logistics even more at first hand.

Notice I didn't say 90% of guys see hookers and aren't single. All guys aren't the same and some don't do this at all, but most that do do it aren't single especially if they desire a relationship with a woman or even marriage. 

[D2sage]

Pickup daytime is the best and will give you the experience you need.

At clubs it doesn't count because it is dark and people are hiding behind alcohol.