Treating women poorly once you master pickup?

[Emotionalmosquito]

In one of the vids from the how to get laid series I remember him saying something about how some of the guys who master the game start treating the girls they pull terribly I guess as payback for making them go through so much pain and hardship along the journey to mastery? For all the shit testing and ridiculous mind games they put them through? I’m interested in knowing more about such guys. Why do they do it? And what exactly are they doing to the girls? Emotionally abusing them? Breaking hearts and pitting them against each other for laughs? Revenge porn? I can’t imagine being able to hate women so much after gaining the ability to receive tons of love and affection from the most beautiful or even just cute ones. But I could be wrong. Is mind blowing sex and intimacy not powerful enough to purge grudges?

[Raze]

It’s possible they developed a persona that’s attractive and subconsciously resent women for liking their persona and not their default personality 

[Leo Gura]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@Leo Gura  
 

A true master has as much power as integrity.

build your own meme and create real power for yourself instead of repeating the nice sounding pattern, create a new song.

[Space]

@Emotionalmosquito I must admit, I have found myself feeling bitter and resentful towards women because of the amount of suffering required just for a few average dates. Endless approaches. Endless face-to-face rejection. Near panic attacks before going out on 'approach sessions'. I've grown bitter. 

Its so easy to succumb to those feelings. It feels fucking good to be resentful, to feel like you're claiming back your powerlessness. Which is what it all is. It's a projection of powerlessness. 

Mindfulness and self-reflection is hard. But I like to think I've developed that enough to let the toxic side of me fall away. Leo has been a positive role model + lots of meditative practise of course.

Edited October 5, 2023 by Space

[StarStruck]

8 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

In one of the vids from the how to get laid series I remember him saying something about how some of the guys who master the game start treating the girls they pull terribly I guess as payback for making them go through so much pain and hardship along the journey to mastery? For all the shit testing and ridiculous mind games they put them through? I’m interested in knowing more about such guys. Why do they do it? And what exactly are they doing to the girls? Emotionally abusing them? Breaking hearts and pitting them against each other for laughs? Revenge porn? I can’t imagine being able to hate women so much after gaining the ability to receive tons of love and affection from the most beautiful or even just cute ones. But I could be wrong. Is mind blowing sex and intimacy not powerful enough to purge grudges?

It is karma. No where is it written that men should be saints. 

[Something Funny]

@AerisVahnEphelia you've missed the point

@StarStruck what karma? 

[Emotionalmosquito]

On 10/4/2023 at 9:04 PM, Nabd said:

where I wont take them seriously to a point where I would only entertain a girl to get a BJ or something out of it, and nothing else mattered for me, but paradoxically, this made girls chase me

So basically you treat them like sex objects and that’s what they act like back towards you? Teach me.

On 10/4/2023 at 8:09 PM, Leo Gura said:

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

But you also have to admit women are the ones with most of the power when it comes to the night life scene and dating in general, and they can be pretty nasty themselves to guys with suboptimal social skills or just guys that don’t look so good. That might be one reason why the skilled dudes like to be mean, to help even the odds so to speak.

@StarStruck True. And I can definitely see how karma would come into play 

[Leo Gura]

51 minutes ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

But you also have to admit women are the ones with most of the power when it comes to the night life scene and dating in general

Not really.

It seems that way to guys who are bad with women.

Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hello from Russia]

Without a dick pussy has 0 value and vice versa

Edited October 8, 2023 by Hello from Russia

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Not really.

It seems that way to guys who are bad with women.

If girls go to the clubs or bars to find a guy to have casual sex with then why do most of the girls by the end of night not go home with a guy for an ONS?

[Leo Gura]

Most girls aren't looking for a ONS. But they can be seduced into it with good game.

Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

3 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

 

@StarStruck True. And I can definitely see how karma would come into play 

You should act like how your karma dictates and not be ashamed by it or have any regrets.

Edited October 8, 2023 by StarStruck

[Hardkill]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Most girls aren't looking for a ONS. But they can be seduced into it with good game.

So, then what are most girls in the night life scene in a place like Vegas initially looking for?

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So, then what are most girls in the night life scene in a place like Vegas initially looking for?

Fun and socialization.

Girls are always socializing. And the sex comes from that spontaneously for them. They don't plan it.

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Fun and socialization.

Girls are always socializing. And the sex comes from that spontaneously for them. They don't plan it.

I see. So, the difference between men and women in a night life scenario is that men have more of a tendency to hunt for sex whereas women don't tend to hunt for sex, but are still subconsciously open the possibility of that happening if the mood strikes them and if they spontaneously hit it off with a random guy they just met. Correct?

[Leo Gura]

@Hardkill A woman needs to be lead into sex.

Women select men based on how well they lead them. The selection mechanism is built seamlessly into their behavior such that it isn't even conscious, it's instinctual.

Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

@Leo Gura what is your stages of leading a girl? I guess you baby step is but if you just met a girl at a student social gathering how would you go about it. 

[Leo Gura]

@StarStruck That's complicated to answer. That's what game teaches you. It took me years of going out to understand it.

Edited October 8, 2023 by Leo Gura

[bensenbiz]

52 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

@Leo Gura what is your stages of leading a girl? I guess you baby step is but if you just met a girl at a student social gathering how would you go about it. 

one simple thing is establishing sexual tension.. for example touching her..
of course, you have to make her feel comfortable with you on the first place..