If you can fully love reality, are you then enlightened?

[PurpleTree]

?

[An young being]

I don't know, but is it possible?

[Razard86]

9 minutes ago, An young being said:

I don't know, but is it possible?

It's the most radical thing there is. When you become conscious of what unconditional love is...let's just say that shit is ridiculously powerful and frightening as all hell to embody.

[Yimpa]

Enlightenment is not the end… unless you convince yourself it’s the end.

Seriously, how can Infinity have an end?!

“Fully loving” reality is relative to what you understand reality to be in your current state of consciousness. So if you claim to be enlightened, then sure. What you grasp as “fully loving” reality is Truth for you.

Just keep in mind that your enlightenment bubble of reality is only a facet of infinite facets of reality. But good luck convincing any enlightened being that.

[Leo Gura]

No.

Awakening is a function of your state of consciousness.

Are you conscious that you are imagining the world? Then you are Awake. Otherwise not.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Leo Gura

[An young being]

7 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Enlightenment is not the end… unless you convince yourself it’s the end.

Seriously, how can Infinity have an end?!

“Fully loving” reality is relative to what you understand reality to be in your current state of consciousness. So if you claim to be enlightened, then sure. What you grasp as “fully loving” reality is Truth for you.

Just keep in mind that your enlightenment bubble of reality is only a facet of infinite facets of reality. But good luck convincing any enlightened being that.

Only when all your questions are answered and there are no more questions in your mind, you can become enlightened.

[Yimpa]

8 minutes ago, An young being said:

Only when all your questions are answered and there are no more questions in your mind, you can become enlightened.

Fuck that, I have a hot date to attend tomorrow. I wonder what exciting things we will be doing?

One thing is for certain: If I tell her I’m enlightened, there will be no second date!!

Edited October 3, 2023 by Yimpa

[An young being]

2 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Fuck that, I have a hot date to attend tomorrow. I wonder what exciting things we will be doing?

Then you don't need Enlightenment at all. It's only for those who ask too many questions.

[Princess Arabia]

18 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Enlightenment is not the end… unless you convince yourself it’s the end.

Seriously, how can Infinity have an end?

There's no beginning either. Did you start a process of becoming Enlightened, because that's considered a beginning.

[Hojo]

it will do it by dissolving your identity.

if you love everything you dont exist.

the only reason you exist is cause you are attached to thinking and moving.

if you equally enjoyed sitting there staring at a wall you would do that cause its easier.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Hojo

[vibv]

1 hour ago, Yimpa said:

Fuck that, I have a hot date to attend tomorrow. I wonder what exciting things we will be doing?

One thing is for certain: If I tell her I’m enlightened, there will be no second date!!

It's just a matter of definition. If you say: Enlightenment (or awakening) is knowing that there's only you, then it can be reached. But it can also change again.

Everything that has a beginning will have an end.

I'm starting to get the feeling that everybody means something completely different when using that word. It's just such a buzzword. It's so overused and misused that we should think about abandoning that term entirely and instead classify all different states of consciousness and give them completely new names.

 

Edited October 3, 2023 by vibv

[Ajax]

Yes if you can love without anything. If you love "with" it is love with a construct. YOU can not resist. You must put something to resist or something that resists.  Love with a construct is something to resist and something that resists. 

There is "love" with a reason and "love" for something. There is "love" that is imagined or faked. Even "unconditional love" presupposes the condition that there is a conditional love... thereby there is a construct of resistance. 

There is a Total ABSENCE of love.  But that ABSENCE is not just love. It is also timeless, changeless, knowingness, without agreement, without reason, source, cause and creation to name a few. 

If you had it you would KNOW it with no doubts, no agreement, no resistance. 

[Yimpa]

33 minutes ago, vibv said:

we should think about abandoning that term entirely and instead classify all different states of consciousness and give them completely new names

That won’t be necessary if you’re Awake.

Or realize this is all an Infinite Dream.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Yimpa

[vibv]

4 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

That won’t be necessary if you’re Awake.

Why? We talk about this stuff, don't we? That's what we're doing right now actually 

Wouldn't it be great if our vocabulary would be even more advanced?

[Yimpa]

Just now, vibv said:

Wouldn't it be great if our vocabulary would be even more advanced?

Creating a new religion is not advanced.

[vibv]

2 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Creating a new religion is not advanced.

Why not? What's the problem with religion in the sense of doing spirituality together?

I'm not talking about dogma or being a leader of a cult or something like that. But religion doesn't have to be that

[vibv]

@Yimpa Can't going to a night club already be a religious experience? Why not build upon that? 

I have to ask: Do you think I'm planning to create a new religion?

[Nemra]

2 minutes ago, vibv said:

Can't going to a night club already be a religious experience?

Nooooooo.... ?

[vibv]

1 minute ago, Understander said:

Nooooooo.... ?

Hm?

[Nemra]

@vibv 

Religion can't exist without dogma.

You have to be religious in order to have a religious experience. Those people cannot tolerate, from their point of view, such vulgar and filthy environments.