Biggest error in Leo's metaphysical understanding

[CoolDreamThanks]

54 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's great that you learn from tachers, but would be even better if you forget them and start to see directly, without the filter of the structured mind. That is the work we must do, completely free ourselves from ties and open ourselves to reality.

Yep, been doing that for years, just some things, like previous lifes, you can't really access directly now. Some have that ability, not me though. So having teachers who help is wonderful

[Breakingthewall]

24 minutes ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

Yep, been doing that for years, just some things, like previous lifes, you can't really access directly now. Some have that ability, not me though. So having teachers who help is wonderful

So do you believe people who talk about past lives when you can't access them? And how do you decide to believe them? for his charisma?

[CoolDreamThanks]

45 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

So do you believe people who talk about past lives when you can't access them? And how do you decide to believe them? for his charisma?

Because 95% of things they said I confirmed in my direct experience, so the remaining 5% I can't confirm I believe. 

[Breakingthewall]

11 minutes ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

Because 95% of things they said I confirmed in my direct experience, so the remaining 5% I can't confirm I believe. 

Are you referring to realizations like when you say that this universe has been created by a demon? I'd say it's a logical conclusion, which you arrive at after analyzing reality, seeing that there are things that do not agree, according to your human bias, with what you expect to be divine love, then the conclusion is that it is a demon who is the architect of this universe. A strange conclusion, since if so, who is the creator of that demon? or is that demon god?

[CoolDreamThanks]

47 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Are you referring to realizations like when you say that this universe has been created by a demon? I'd say it's a logical conclusion, which you arrive at after analyzing reality, seeing that there are things that do not agree, according to your human bias, with what you expect to be divine love, then the conclusion is that it is a demon who is the architect of this universe. A strange conclusion, since if so, who is the creator of that demon? or is that demon god?

I've already talked about it in the previous page here I think. Yeh demon in this context is just a God with a belief in separation. Calling it a demon is kind of dramatic, I guess. 

They've talked about many other things that I've experienced directly. 

[NineHfanbase]

6 hours ago, An young being said:

Like this?

 

 

Yeah actually, thats perfect

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

I've already talked about it in the previous page here I think. Yeh demon in this context is just a God with a belief in separation. Calling it a demon is kind of dramatic, I guess. 

They've talked about many other things that I've experienced directly. 

I don't know. It is difficult to say how this experience is formed. Do you claim that you have realized it directly, without any conceptual interference? Maybe that's why you used the insult before, to affirm your realization?

I think there is a lot of self-deception in spiritual work, you have to doubt very deeply. If I see someone insulting another in a spiritual conversation about why reality is the way it is, I think he is crazy. Someone who has watched videos and read books, like course on miracles and believed them. For me that is madness, a state of mind much lower than materialism. That's why I asked you, to try to understand you really. 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

@CoolDreamThanks  

Anyway, my vision or intuition as to why things are the way they are is because I, the reality, am creating them that way, As they happen, they are a current of existence that gains in complexity and perfection. It is going to lead to an end, to grow in truth, in glory. This cycle is one more step. Below this current is infinity, I do not understand how and why things happen the way they do. I hope to see deeper , as deep as is possible. Sure this vision can be wrong, but is totally direct. Anyway, I doubt of any vision because the vision is in the land of the mental, the only important thing is the openess to infinity now . That's not mental, is real

Edited December 6, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Breakingthewall Remember that just because you can never be 100% sure does not mean that you now have your entire mental sphere where cognition takes place, question it, or not trust it at all. Intuition, for example, belongs to the mental sphere and why should you reject it? Remember that all the answers are already within You. You are complete at every moment. "I am not the body, I am not the mind" should be replaced by "I am not just this body, I am not just this mind." For, in essence, You are something far, far beyond just these two aspects. This is the process of reintegrating yourself as a multidimensional being. The process of completely trusting YourSELF.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

This is the process of reintegrating yourself as a multidimensional being. The process of completely trusting YourSELF

1 hour ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

@Breakingthewall 

Yes, the process begins by forgetting everything learned, losing the fear of reality and beginning to delve deeper in a real way. I hope to see in the coming years how many of us break all the limits

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Breakingthewall process is already here. You are breaking your limits now, breaking your walls in every moment of this work😉

[CoolDreamThanks]

 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

@Breakingthewall process is already here. You are breaking your limits now, breaking your walls in every moment of this work😉

We must restructure the psyche, since unlike what leo said, the absolute is incomprehensible, it cannot be grasped with the mind. We have to make your mind more flexible so that it can open up to it, it is something current, now, but the mind veils it. you have to understand how he does this, and open up

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

 

What means that clown? That you are superior? I just seen a poor guy fighting for his weak self esteem. Don't pretend to be a man, you can't fool anyone, your game is too obvious, little baby

[Yimpa]

Patrick doing his best Jesus impression 💀 

[CoolDreamThanks]

@Breakingthewall

[AerisVahnEphelia]

 

imagine someone trying to say which frog is the most egocentric.

 makes me laugh

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

imagine someone trying to say which frog is the most egocentric.

 

 

[Someone here]

I actually  disagree with the entire world view of Leo.  But I don't mention this to not get banned lol 😆. 

[Princess Arabia]

On 12/6/2023 at 5:07 PM, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, the process begins by forgetting everything learned

How does one forget everything learnt on purpose. I guess you don't mean that literally. I can't forget everything I've learnt, I can only see them for what they are.