A question to Princess Arabia

[BlessedLion]

Hey,

 

I saw in your post something about men becoming less desirable as they get older if they don't "have their shit together" basically you said their looks will fade and if they aren't financially stable they are fucked.

 

But what about if they are extremely masculine in the sense of llving their life purpose, think like an artist or musician, yes he may be older and broke, but he kept his soul in a way and didn't sell out. Society might label that a loser,. but who really lost and won in this case?

 

I can also look at this at the feminine, there can be a woman who isn't traditionally very young and attractive, but if she is her feminine energy deeply, sexual, and nurturing, and especially loving, this can make her 100X times more attractive.

 

[Phil King]

43 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

if they are extremely masculine in the sense of llving their life purpose

If someone is truly living their life purpose, they automatically have their shit together. 90% of "having your shit together" is simply having a vision for your life and executing on it. 

[BlessedLion]

True, I also feel, if one is living their purpose, money and women kinda come to them anyway. With time.

[flowboy]

He would collect people around him who also don’t value money. Perhaps he would be their leader. Or a valuable member of the tribe, contributing in other ways. Being an example, teaching, space holding, entertaining with his art, whatever he does that is valued in his circle. He would be seen as attractive because of his social status relative to his tribe. And women from outside who think he should have more money, their opinion doesn’t matter because they’re not on his radar anyway. Until they feel drawn to him, at which point they would have to drop those ideas in order to get closer.

[Princess Arabia]

@BlessedLionThere have been posts on here in the past by certain males that said women have expiration dates. These dates were very young, IMO and i was pretty much rebutting their comments. I asked the mods to lock it after a short while when I realized my post was being misunderstood. I don't think any of the sexes have expiration dates on a general scale but, in this case i was referring to the dating scene specifically.

I believe they said for women it was like between 25-30years old. They weren't referring to women's capabilities of having babies but attraction wise; and it was implicated that after that, their attraction levels would start to decline and would find it harder to find a man by their reasoning. (I didn't say that, they did). My post was to show that, if they wanted to say that women have expiration dates, I could show reasons where men could also have expiration dates. (Not personally saying they do, but I could show how they could if we were to argue those stats and reverse the psychology). I was pretty much playing the devil's advocate.

In societies, men are usually considered to be the bread winner of the family and men usually pay for dates and are considered the provider. Even if it's 50/50 or a particular percentage. It's very rare that in a family the woman is taking care of everything while the man just sits at home and do nothing. Flip the script, and it is socially acceptable if the woman, especially if there are young children involved, is home without a job taking care of the family. 

My point was, in the case of relationships and/or marriage, men will find it harder to find a mate past a certain age, say 50+ if he is not financially independent, not necessarily rich or wealthy, to make the home sustainable. Young Men starting out won't have this problem as much as older men would, and women won't normally have this problem at all no matter what age she is. You cannot be broke and sustain a family comfortably as a man past a certain age but a woman can, providing the male counterpart is already established financially. When I say broke I mean with no income coming in.

So, if they think only women have this problem of expiration dates then men can also have expiration dates when it comes to being older and are unable to sustain a family. Nothing to do with achieving life-purpose or being fucked. 

[BlessedLion]

17 hours ago, flowboy said:

He would collect people around him who also don’t value money. Perhaps he would be their leader. Or a valuable member of the tribe, contributing in other ways. Being an example, teaching, space holding, entertaining with his art, whatever he does that is valued in his circle. He would be seen as attractive because of his social status relative to his tribe. And women from outside who think he should have more money, their opinion doesn’t matter because they’re not on his radar anyway. Until they feel drawn to him, at which point they would have to drop those ideas in order to get closer.

Solid, very well written. Totally agree

[BlessedLion]

@Princess Arabia I see! Thank you for re-explaining. I'm in no way trying to be confrontational about your post, I'm actually more curious because i find this interesting.

 

Yeah i wouldn't take the guys here too seriously with what they write, its a lot of toxic mindsets and many of the men here seem to struggle a lot with women in particular. Lots of anger and my guess is many of them don't actually interact with real women and come up with these red pill conclusions.

 

Personally, I can see why the attraction levels drop as women get older, that's pretty obvious, but that doesn't mean they have an "expiration date", what a stupid term to use. Some women who are older, if they've developed well, can embody a level of feminine wisdom and nurture that younger women just don't understand yet. And usually they are much more advanced sexually, if you want is love and depth in your lovemaking. 

 

If you just want porn-ish, submissive, sluttiness, then yeah maybe younger girls are better, but after a while, if you are developing as a man, you want deep, nourishing healing love making and to feel safe with your partner. 

 

Regarding the men, it is a bit different, we kinda peak in our 30's and if we do it right can be peaking up until about 45-50. I think as men get older it's more about your confidence in your life and purpose, your wisdom, and maturity. I thin women are repulsed by an inauthentic and immature man, even if he is rich. 

 

The money thing, i actually don't think matters that much. Women will fall in love with a guy who is present, wise, masculine, deep, and caring and kind to her. If he can make her feel seen and like a queen, she will want that much more than financial stability.

 

Just my take. What do you think?

[Danioover9000]

@Princess Arabia

On 2023-09-25 at 6:22 PM, Princess Arabia said:

@BlessedLionThere have been posts on here in the past by certain males that said women have expiration dates. These dates were very young, IMO and i was pretty much rebutting their comments. I asked the mods to lock it after a short while when I realized my post was being misunderstood. I don't think any of the sexes have expiration dates on a general scale but, in this case i was referring to the dating scene specifically.

I believe they said for women it was like between 25-30years old. They weren't referring to women's capabilities of having babies but attraction wise; and it was implicated that after that, their attraction levels would start to decline and would find it harder to find a man by their reasoning. (I didn't say that, they did). My post was to show that, if they wanted to say that women have expiration dates, I could show reasons where men could also have expiration dates. (Not personally saying they do, but I could show how they could if we were to argue those stats and reverse the psychology). I was pretty much playing the devil's advocate.

In societies, men are usually considered to be the bread winner of the family and men usually pay for dates and are considered the provider. Even if it's 50/50 or a particular percentage. It's very rare that in a family the woman is taking care of everything while the man just sits at home and do nothing. Flip the script, and it is socially acceptable if the woman, especially if there are young children involved, is home without a job taking care of the family. 

My point was, in the case of relationships and/or marriage, men will find it harder to find a mate past a certain age, say 50+ if he is not financially independent, not necessarily rich or wealthy, to make the home sustainable. Young Men starting out won't have this problem as much as older men would, and women won't normally have this problem at all no matter what age she is. You cannot be broke and sustain a family comfortably as a man past a certain age but a woman can, providing the male counterpart is already established financially. When I say broke I mean with no income coming in.

So, if they think only women have this problem of expiration dates then men can also have expiration dates when it comes to being older and are unable to sustain a family. Nothing to do with achieving life-purpose or being fucked. 

   Honestly every time, when I sometimes see a thread that is all about red pill talking points and using numbers to rate attraction, I already know there'll be a high chance of a sexist talking point. It's total cringe when they sound misogynistic and sexist. Best thing is to just report the thread and post and just leave and read another thread or journal.

[Butters]

I've heard that @Princess Arabia's milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. 

[Princess Arabia]

47 minutes ago, Butters said:

I've heard that @Princess Arabia's milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. 

And then some.