Expose yourself to difficult experiences!

[Carl-Richard]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

It is .

Like when they say there is a fine line between awakening and insanity.  NO! There is no line. Awakening is gonna definitely make you lose every last brain cell that you have lf according to Leo's definition that awakening is solipsism. 

Likewise..masochism is just half assed stoicism. 

What are your virtues?

Edited September 25, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Rinne said:

@Someone here seems like you lost your shit. 

this thread is non sense man. 

Thank you .

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Where are your virtues?

None at all.

I jusr experiment with different worldviews and I change them more than I change My clothes..

One day I'm a solipsist..the other day I'm a materialist..Next day I'm a Nihilist etc.

All virtues and morality is a house of cards . If you think about it .

Nothing is stopping you from killing another human being other than some chemical soup in your brain's cortex.  

[Leo Gura]

How quickly the tables turn

[Carl-Richard]

8 minutes ago, Someone here said:

None at all.

I jusr experiment with different worldviews and I change them more than I change My clothes..

One day I'm a solipsist..the other day I'm a materialist..Next day I'm a Nihilist etc.

All virtues and morality is a house of cards . If you think about it .

Nothing is stopping you from killing another human being other than some chemical soup in your brain's cortex.  

 

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Stoicism is a school of Hellenistic philosophy that flourished in Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome. The Stoics believed that the practice of virtue is enough to achieve eudaimonia: a well-lived, flourishing life. The Stoics identified the path to achieving it with a life spent practicing certain virtues in everyday life such as courage or temperance and living in accordance with nature. It was founded in the ancient Agora of Athens by Zeno of Citium around 300 BC.

Alongside Aristotle's ethics, the Stoic tradition forms one of the major founding approaches to virtue ethics. The Stoics are especially known for teaching that "virtue is the only good" for human beings, and that external things, such as health, wealth, and pleasure, are not good or bad in themselves (adiaphora) but have value as "material for virtue to act upon". Many Stoics—such as Seneca and Epictetus—emphasized that because "virtue is sufficient for happiness", a sage would be emotionally resilient to misfortune. The Stoics also held that certain destructive emotions resulted from errors of judgment, and they believed people should aim to maintain a will (called prohairesis) that is "in accordance with nature". Because of this, the Stoics thought the best indication of an individual's philosophy was not what a person said but how a person behaved. To live a good life, one had to understand the rules of the natural order since they believed everything was rooted in nature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism

 

Here are some of my virtues:

 

Edited September 25, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[Yimpa]

 

I will chew gum everyday to reach enlightenment 

Edited September 25, 2023 by Yimpa

[Buck Edwards]

Stoicism involves personal responsibility. Not recklessness. 

You're least responsible. 

[Buck Edwards]

Get psychiatric help for your issues and addictions. 

I see a clear avoidance of real work. 

[Yimpa]

That’s right. Let’s get serious!

 

[Carl-Richard]

15 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Get psychiatric help for your issues and addictions. 

I see a clear avoidance of real work. 

Let's be nice.

[Buck Edwards]

13 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Let's be nice.

Telling someone to seek help is "not being nice" now. A person is declaring that self destruction is stoicism and them believing this might further degrade their already declining situation. And you think that they shouldn't be told the truth. Is it time to play nice or is it time to make a person accountable for something extremely misleading and dangerous? Smoking can be extremely harmful and will lead to health situations that might become irreversible. I don't think this should be taken lightly. 

My tone is blunt on purpose. It's not to bash a person. But if you try to simply debate and argue with them, I don't think it will be very helpful. 

From the nature of his posting, it's clear that he is running away from his addictions. Telling him that is not necessarily being mean to him. 

And there is nothing wrong with getting psychiatric help either. In fact most people on the forum will benefit from it as they are quite mentally vulnerable and being ignored.

Tell me if my claims are unreasonable. Thanks. 

[Carl-Richard]

@Buck Edwards Telling someone to get psychiatric help without much elaboration and when they didn't introduce the topic themselves, can be viewed as an insult.

[Yimpa]

It’s important to appreciate and take into consideration different worldviews. For example, not everyone has access to mental health services due to their financial situation or cultural stigma.

I promise that this was not written using ChatGPT x-D

Edited September 25, 2023 by Yimpa

[Carl-Richard]

@Yimpa I also think you're trolling a bit much in this thread.

[Yimpa]

@Carl-Richard My apologies. Will tone it down!

[Yimpa]

This is a prime example of exposure work. How to get into disagreements with others while being respectful of boundaries.

Great work, everybody!

[Buck Edwards]

7 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

@Buck Edwards Telling someone to get psychiatric help without much elaboration and when they didn't introduce the topic themselves, can be viewed as an insult.

This is a social problem. This needs to be removed. Psychiatric help can do wonders. 

It's sad thing when it's taken as an insult, the same reason why so many people will forever be deprived of real mental help. 

We demonize mental illness. 

To the OP - I forgot to give enough context. To be elaborate if you're constantly struggling with thoughts and obsessive temptations and addictions an online forum can only give you support but not much beyond that. If you read on the serious medical consequences of your addictions, you are better off doing something urgently about it like contacting not only medical professionals, I'm suspecting that your addiction might have already led to some medical conditions that you might be oblivious to, so go look into that. You're simply wasting more time delaying the inevitable. Also there could be mental causes why this addictive behavior exists, trauma etc. So go seek psychiatric assistance for the underlying causes which will heal your symptoms partially. You'll need to do serious work to get your situation in order since substance abuse unchecked for long whether it's cigarettes or alcohol has long term consequences and dangers and the mind has a way to trick that everything is okay. Rest is your own choice. I was simply trying to warn about the dangers you might have to potentially be facing.

[Princess Arabia]

@Someone hereI have to say, you are quite a character. I've never seen anything like it. You are really one of a kind. You are full of surprises, and on the other hand you're not because you're consistent with your surprises. Your posts are like from different character modes, never knowing which one you'll jump into next.

Maybe next week you'll post about joining the Priesthood, then the following maybe a gang, then maybe you'll quit smoking cigs and start inhaling incense. The one consistent thing though is your porn-addicted character, that never changes. You do you and when you've exhausted all you can be, maybe you'll get tired of playing the roles and just go straight to the Godhead, idk. At this point, it doesn't even matter what anyone says and I kind of admire your "don't give a fuck" attitude, not because I condone it or think it's right or wrong, but because you're not pretending to be someone you're not, even though you are.

Morality is in the eyes of the beholder and you make your own morals and set your own standards. At the end of the day, everything is falling into place and things are shifting and coordinating on it's own. As long as you recognize that these are just roles you're playing, which you do, and every one of us are also playing character roles, it really doesn't matter because your true nature never changes and is always present underneath the masks. Can't wait to see who you become next and how long that role will last.

Edited September 25, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Mysterious Stranger]

Stop shooting yourself in the foot.

Proactively embracing difficulties is important, but there is a middle ground.
Be fucking gentle with yourself. Just LEAN against your fears, just push 1%, small bits of it. 
Chip away at these things Mildly. This is a whole life's work. Take your rest as seriously as your hustle.

Now and then, Goggins the shit out of it, you are God
Now and then, Rest, you are God


 

In any given moment, a man's growth is optimized if he leans just beyond his edge, his capacity, his fear.

He should not be too lazy, happily stagnating in the zone of security and comfort.

Nor should he push far beyond his edge, stressing himself unnecessarily, unable to metabolize his experience.

He should lean just slightly beyond the edge of fear and discomfort. Constantly. In everything he does.

- David Deida

Edited September 25, 2023 by Mysterious Stranger

[Arthogaan]

Cold showers I do respect.

But watching movies before bed and smoking something that gives you dopamine is the opposite of doing something difficult.

You do unhealthy shit and then delude yourself that it is in some higher purpose of doing "difficult things". Nope. Stop bullshitting yourself.