AndylizedAAY

Spiral Dynamics, My Questions, My Ideas, and My Results

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Hello everyone, I took a quiz saying that I am at stage yellow but I don't really know how much I tested or had the opportunitiy to test my systems thinking to change the world. I have yet to create a vision on that. I wonder if it is possibe for me to be moving too quickly unintentionally in spiral dynamics. I also notice that stage coral may not even be acknoledged from time to time probably because of how difficult it is to understand in the same way that Leo's video on stage turquoise needed to be replaced by someone else. If it is true that stage coral would say that awakening is relative, that would put Leo at stage turquoise/coral by teachng the different levels of awakening. Also, what is the difference between awakening and enlightenment and is awakening capitalized? It's probably the case that such awakenings cannot be communicated in any model but I was wondering the states of consciousness in each stage since consciousness increases with each stage and that there are infinite states of consciousness. Would a state of consciousness be different from a level of consciousness that determines the depth of that state? Also, if I cannot explain my own state of consciousness or level of development, it  probably means that I don't have free will and I want to acknoledge that stage turquoise has a much more nuanced way of thinking about free will instead of saying that it doesn't exist by having it depend on identity just like with what Leo said on what will is. I would like to know why I am at stage yellow or if there is even an explanation for it not that this is bad or anything, but just curious. Could it be because of Leo and that it still just takes time for me to transition into stage turquoise?

Test – Spiral Dynamics Quiz (Stage Yellow Result).pdf

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A question and title change.

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It's cool that there is a test on this. I would recommend continuing to look at where you can fully integrate the lower stages as well. For me, I am capable of thinking like a stage yellow person but I very clearly have things to work out at the lower stages, such as success in dating, sticking up for myself, self-discipline, becoming financially independent, and loving myself fully to name a few. Remember, we are not solely at one stage; we have smatterings of each stage within us that require our attention. 

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this quiz is way to simple and cute xD very good educational resource. 

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Leo doesn't teach any levels of awakening.  He teaches a pseudo-philosophy informed by psychedelic experiences.

You can call it awakening and you can call a cat a dog, but it doesn't mean it is what most people mean by awakening (which is nondual realization, from partial to complete.)

The Spiral Dynamics/Integral Theory is basically what you THINK of yourself.  If you call yourself Coral, who is objectively going to tell you you're wrong? So it's correlated with your own personal level of self-delusion.  

Anything where conceptual self-evaluation is called for is fraught with self-deception (unlike a stable nondual stage of consciousness, which is at least experiential and direct.)  So you can see yourself any way you want; you can think you're below average on a narcissism test when you're a raging narcissist, etc.

That's what SD tests for: your own levels of delusion and grandiosity.

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Most people still have beliefs stuck in the lower colors. A person with a yellow core would have integrated all the lower colors to have enough understanding that they would not be capable of judging another color. I'm not saying that this is you, but this is where I see self proclaimed yellows fall short.

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