Read this old blog post by Leo

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Who is "we"

6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

 

We are who wants to open ourselves to the truth. 

6 hours ago, Razard86 said:

and do you really believe the Self needs to constantly create a model? Or rather...the self that has tricked itself into thinking its human needs the model?

The relative self needs to be fed by a constant mental flow that creates a conceptual model

Edited September 22, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[VeganAwake]

6 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Which is a concept....notice...you attempt to not construct a concept....and then you push forward a concept...so which is it? Also...why do you waste your time repeating the same thing? Might as well just copy and paste that same response....on every thread...it would save you time. 

Also...if what you said were true....then why are you still here? On this forum....what is it that you seek?

I think I must like your guys energy and relentless dedication to discovery or something ? 

Definitely not trying to push anymore concepts. (The cupeth is overflowing) 

There was a very desperate seeker here for quite a few years until it died.

Actualized.org(Leo) content was there for 'me' during that time and I think I just  like to try to "pay it forward" sorta speak 

❤️ 

 

[VeganAwake]

13 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Do you see it as everything already exist and it is up to us to chose what part of the already existing existence that we want to experience by changing our perceptions, beliefs and assumptions.

No its not choosing or cherry picking....It's recognizing that PA isn't a real entity as or within the body.

It can be difficult to empty the glass because it feels like death, but that is what Ralston is talking about in his "book of not knowing"

❤️ 

[Razard86]

6 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

I think I must like your guys energy and relentless dedication to discovery or something ? 

Definitely not trying to push anymore concepts. (The cupeth is overflowing) 

There was a very desperate seeker here for quite a few years until it died.

Actualized.org(Leo) content was there for 'me' during that time and I think I just  like to try to "pay it forward" sorta speak 

❤️ 

 

I think that is just the story you tell yourself. Which is cool, because guess what? Even when it is seen to be a dream,.....there is always a story. Why? Because every production has a story, if it weren't true for you....you would have forgotten how to speak. I say this all the time "your actions reveal how you really feel."

You are here because you are still seeking, and your story is you paying it forward. Just like Tony Parsons, that is the story he says. What I have noticed in human spirituality many of you create delusions of denial. There is nobody here? As you charge people for your retreats and meetings. Nobody is speaking....as you dodge when something is thrown at you. 

Miss me with all that. On one hand I understand why it is done, it's to help the egos that cling to dream to awaken, on the other hand....you also delude yourself that you aren't clinging too. As long as you seek to eat, and maintain your form....you are part of the clinging to survive. But you can certainly delude yourself into thinking otherwise....but I don't fall for that b.s. lol.

 

[Princess Arabia]

6 hours ago, SOUL said:

@Princess Arabia  To the edit part in your last post yea but allow me to unpack that a little more if I can.

We realize our well being in just being it, so not dependent on the conditions of life. Our well being, our fulfillment is not dependent on what we know or don't know, do or not do, there is no sense of lacking so the desire that causes self suffering is satiated so to speak.

The love and joy in anything we do happen to be doing is not derived from it which can be fickle and temporal, we are being that presence of fulfillment so bring the love and joy to the activity whatever that happens to be.

Now let's see if I can bring it full circle and touch on the theme of the trippy wayback Leo video just posted here on mastery. He says that to master something we need to love the process, otherwise we won't do it. There is an emphasis on the love of the process itself.

I offer that it's not trying to squeeze the love out of the things in life we are doing, it is bringing the love to it that is pouring out of the fulfillment through us and onto everything we do even if we don't do anything at all. This is the mastery of being.

Ok. When I read things like this and go back in my head and think about what I've read, watched, listened to and experienced, (I will also add intuit), it makes the understanding much clearer, goes much deeper, because as I go through this journey of Self knowledge, it can get quite .....i'm trying to think of the most appropriate word here to insert, but I'll leave it open, you get the drift. This was understood before but not quite at a level that I was totally satisfied with and reading this, which I'm sure there are more levels to and deeper understandings of, has shed a light to an existing question I've had for a long time. It had more to do with the relative than the Absolute. The egoic mind can get a bit confused and likes to solve its own inquiries, especially if it's coming from a place of genuine curiosity into the nature of Reality.

I'm also aware that it can get into an endless loop of trying to grasp the ungraspable, so I try not to get too caught up in theories and concepts but just to get a clearer understanding of things from the level of consciousness I'm at and try to not overwhelm myself, and I know that having an open mind will give me the opportunity to get deeper understandings and to be able to apply my intelligence to unravel things at my own pace. Things will get debunked, but that's ok because this is Infinity, but I don't see my existence to ever fall into that category whether I consider myself to be real or not. That's the paradox of trying to understand the real and unreal because either way you look at it, understanding it from either perspective has the potential to view them respectively the same. 

Thanks again and even if what you said has any faults or isn't so, doesn't matter because within it answered an inquiry of mine and I'm sure it just didn't come out of nowhere as my inquiries always gets answered in some way or fashion because of the nature of them and their relations to the Absolute. Absolutely fantastico.

[VeganAwake]

2 hours ago, Razard86 said:

I think that is just the story you tell yourself. Which is cool, because guess what? Even when it is seen to be a dream,.....there is always a story. Why? Because every production has a story, if it weren't true for you....you would have forgotten how to speak. I say this all the time "your actions reveal how you really feel."

You are here because you are still seeking, and your story is you paying it forward. Just like Tony Parsons, that is the story he says. What I have noticed in human spirituality many of you create delusions of denial. There is nobody here? As you charge people for your retreats and meetings. Nobody is speaking....as you dodge when something is thrown at you. 

Miss me with all that. On one hand I understand why it is done, it's to help the egos that cling to dream to awaken, on the other hand....you also delude yourself that you aren't clinging too. As long as you seek to eat, and maintain your form....you are part of the clinging to survive. But you can certainly delude yourself into thinking otherwise....but I don't fall for that b.s. lol.

 

Well then yeah bro that's what's being experienced there..... it's whole, complete and perfect ❤️ 

[Razard86]

8 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Well then yeah bro that's what's being experienced there..... it's whole, complete and perfect ❤️ 

May I ask for an original phrase from you? 

[Razard86]

Another old blog post by Leo. It was a commitment he made to himself a couple years ago. https://www.actualized.org/insights/the-highest-purpose