Russell Brand is being accused of rape

[Danioover9000]

   Zero empathy and shame, trying to milk as much attention as possible to his Channel, while pretending the accusations are not there:

 

[Danioover9000]

@Danioover9000

13 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

   Zero empathy and shame, trying to milk as much attention as possible to his Channel, while pretending the accusations are not there:

 

   In fact, I'm intuitively speculating here, after watching this video:

   I think he was partly baiting the media, the ITv4 channel to release that documentary, and is now spinning that gained attention he has from that rape accusation documentary, that increase in outraged voices, and taking advantage of YouTube's bad decision, and spin all this into some anti mainstream anti establishment talking points, just manipulative.

Edited September 26, 2023 by Danioover9000

[Danioover9000]

   It's like Russel Brand's newest rape now isn't the 4 women anymore, he can't no longer help himself but to now mind rape his audiences here. Mind slay them and fill them with BS anti mainstream talking points. It's psychological rape.

[Tanz]

22 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

 Zero empathy and shame, trying to milk as much attention as possible to his Channel, while pretending the accusations are not there:

It would be a bad idea for him to talk about the issue online (any lawyer would ask him not to address anything) and since he hasn't broke any guidelines officially yet there isn't anything youtube can do. Honestly a very small percentage of rape cases get convicted (in the UK its like 1%) because the court can't convict someone when there is reasonable doubt.  The one woman that reportedly got raped by him never filed a police report which is going to make the accusations hard to prove.  His Lawyer is going to give her a very hard time and the most painful part is if he did rape her and Russell doesn't get convicted she's going to fall into extreme depression.  The media will win because the successfully slowed down his growth, the girl will lose out because she's going to have to re-enact her trauma and get nothing for it.  

To put it in perspective Epstein's victims were going to the FBI to file a complaint over 20 years, several of them and when they did try to convict him it they werent successful until the last try.  

If Russell Brand were to hide in shame, that would make him seem more guilty.  Lets say he is guilty, the best thing he can do is continue to talk on his channel about the things that made him famous.  His fans will watch his content even more and ironically his channel might even grow.  The idiotic media did the same thing for Trump and they helped make him president because of the attention they gave him for free!

[Leo Gura]

45 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

he can't no longer help himself but to now mind rape his audiences

Dude, chill.

[Alex M]

27 minutes ago, Tanz said:

It would be a bad idea for him to talk about the issue online (any lawyer would ask him not to address anything) and since he hasn't broke any guidelines officially yet there isn't anything youtube can do. Honestly a very small percentage of rape cases get convicted (in the UK its like 1%) because the court can't convict someone when there is reasonable doubt.  The one woman that reportedly got raped by him never filed a police report which is going to make the accusations hard to prove.  His Lawyer is going to give her a very hard time and the most painful part is if he did rape her and Russell doesn't get convicted she's going to fall into extreme depression.  The media will win because the successfully slowed down his growth, the girl will lose out because she's going to have to re-enact her trauma and get nothing for it.

Exactly

[Juan]

51 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Dude, chill.

For real @Danioover9000.

[Consept]

@Tanz

Good points, i was thinking about this though in terms of, if the media doesnt bring something like this to the light who will?

Of course I'm not saying the media are some altruistic, looking out for the little guy entity, they want people to read and view their content so they can make more money. But there isn't really a strong enough incentive from other bodies to expose this type of thing, at least no one with the type of power the media has. The government and police are limited as we're seeing from the low conviction rate, maybe you'll get an independent youtube journalist or blogger reporting it but they're limited in budget and potentially their status. So putting yourself in the shoes of one of these women that got raped, what are your options, if your police report basically didnt get anywhere? You can only go to the media or agree to talk to them if the get in contact or you can let it go, that's pretty much it. 

The other point is that if the media doesn't report on it and it comes out that it's even worse they will get destroyed by public opinion and the public will lose trust in them. This I what happened with Jimmy Saville, the police never brought any formal charges to him and the media didn't do an expose while he was alive, the evidence available wouldn't have been far off Brands situation, in that it was allegations without any police reports as far as I know. The media was destroyed for protecting him as some would see it as the their duty to report this type of thing. Brands alleged crimes are nothing compared to Saville, but the point is the media is in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, if they don't report, they're the bad guys and if they do report they're the bad guys. 

[Danioover9000]

@Tanz

2 hours ago, Tanz said:

It would be a bad idea for him to talk about the issue online (any lawyer would ask him not to address anything) and since he hasn't broke any guidelines officially yet there isn't anything youtube can do. Honestly a very small percentage of rape cases get convicted (in the UK its like 1%) because the court can't convict someone when there is reasonable doubt.  The one woman that reportedly got raped by him never filed a police report which is going to make the accusations hard to prove.  His Lawyer is going to give her a very hard time and the most painful part is if he did rape her and Russell doesn't get convicted she's going to fall into extreme depression.  The media will win because the successfully slowed down his growth, the girl will lose out because she's going to have to re-enact her trauma and get nothing for it.  

To put it in perspective Epstein's victims were going to the FBI to file a complaint over 20 years, several of them and when they did try to convict him it they werent successful until the last try.  

If Russell Brand were to hide in shame, that would make him seem more guilty.  Lets say he is guilty, the best thing he can do is continue to talk on his channel about the things that made him famous.  His fans will watch his content even more and ironically his channel might even grow.  The idiotic media did the same thing for Trump and they helped make him president because of the attention they gave him for free!

   So what are some solutions then, if Russel Brand is guilty but there's little interest in investigating him?

[Danioover9000]

@Consept

1 hour ago, Consept said:

@Tanz

Good points, i was thinking about this though in terms of, if the media doesnt bring something like this to the light who will?

Of course I'm not saying the media are some altruistic, looking out for the little guy entity, they want people to read and view their content so they can make more money. But there isn't really a strong enough incentive from other bodies to expose this type of thing, at least no one with the type of power the media has. The government and police are limited as we're seeing from the low conviction rate, maybe you'll get an independent youtube journalist or blogger reporting it but they're limited in budget and potentially their status. So putting yourself in the shoes of one of these women that got raped, what are your options, if your police report basically didnt get anywhere? You can only go to the media or agree to talk to them if the get in contact or you can let it go, that's pretty much it. 

The other point is that if the media doesn't report on it and it comes out that it's even worse they will get destroyed by public opinion and the public will lose trust in them. This I what happened with Jimmy Saville, the police never brought any formal charges to him and the media didn't do an expose while he was alive, the evidence available wouldn't have been far off Brands situation, in that it was allegations without any police reports as far as I know. The media was destroyed for protecting him as some would see it as the their duty to report this type of thing. Brands alleged crimes are nothing compared to Saville, but the point is the media is in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, if they don't report, they're the bad guys and if they do report they're the bad guys. 

   It's a tricky situation for sure, but it's just sad to see the Russel Brand comment section, and similar Channels, they sound like fanboys. Do they realize that if there's a small chance Russel is guilty, that they were supporting a criminal?

[Guest Tobia]

@Danioover9000

2 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

Do they realize that if there's a small chance Russel is guilty, that they were supporting a criminal?

Anyone could be a criminal, including you. You could make anonymous allegations against anyone. People support him because they feel represented by him speaking against corporate tyranny and endless wars. 

And even when he ventures into conspiracy theories, corporate media has no tools to counter it because they are part of the problem

 

[Danioover9000]

@Leo Gura

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Dude, chill.

   I was a bit harsh calling Russel Brand's marketing his Channel as mind raping the audience. Maybe ideological proliferation, assimilation, and mind slaying his viewers to not critically and independently think for themselves?

@Juan

1 hour ago, Juan said:

For real @Danioover9000.

   I'm chilling. 

[Danioover9000]

@Tobia

5 minutes ago, Tobia said:

@Danioover9000

Anyone could be a criminal, including you. You could make anonymous allegations against anyone. People support him because they feel represented by him speaking against corporate tyranny and endless wars. 

And even when he ventures into conspiracy theories, corporate media has no tools to counter it because they are part of the problem

 

   I can't relate, or empathize or have little understanding with why they would feel represented by Russel Brand. Even before the allegations, in the past I don't like him, there's little attraction or little likability, he's too feminine and weird to me. After the allegations, that's enough for me to not like him at all, and it's sad to see he's got a growing following lapping his takes.

[Danioover9000]

@Tobia Is the guy you linked a Marxist or a socialist?

[Danioover9000]

   Confirmation of an official investigation:

 

[Danioover9000]

   Another perspective from a streamer. Know I know YT demonetized him, they didn't take his channel down.

Edited September 26, 2023 by Danioover9000

[Hatfort]

If it's a conspiracy against him for his views, why isn't for example Joe Rogan getting the same treatment? I'm sure he has been with multiple women too. If it was that easy to get false allegations for Brand, why wouldn't it be for Rogan too, and shut another truth-teller about vaccines and stuff?

I'm sorry, but the investigation seems consistent. The guy was a monster. He may have embraced a spiritual route last years, I'm sure he has improved, but the girls he hurt are allowed to come back from his past and not be fine.

YouTube did well according to their guidelines because it's not only about content. If a creator damages their corporate image with their life apart from the videos, they can and should take measures. To put an extreme example, if a serial killer of children would upload party song videos, wouldn't YouTube be allowed to demonetize or cut his content just because his videos are okay? Hell no, fuck him, banned, and so his content and videos. Elon Musk would be glad to show them in X anyway.

[Leo Gura]

X, where a child killer feels at home.

[Tanz]

9 hours ago, Consept said:

Good points, i was thinking about this though in terms of, if the media doesnt bring something like this to the light who will?

 

They need to interview him the minute someone accuses him, well actually the police need to do that first because its their job to do so.  The media then needs to talk to the police and Brand if he wants to.  They need to show that they tried to communicate with him but refused.

 

7 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

   So what are some solutions then, if Russel Brand is guilty but there's little interest in investigating him?

If he is not convicted then he is a free man and he should be able to make money off of youtube as long as he meets their guidelines.  

The world is an unfair place and there are people that have done ALOT worst than Brand, like Bill Cosby whom was found guilty and its a well known fact that he gave women date rape drug and raped them.  60 of them and he didn't even have a relationship with them like Brand did.  They free Cosby after a short while after being convicted because of a legal technicality that the judicial system messed up on.  The judicial system is still the best system we have and we should not use public opinion to punish people.  On a different topic argument with the vaccine  and why we have to use health authorities to make decisions rather than "youtubers" is exactly like the same reason we cant just make Brand guilty until the judicial system finds him guilty.  Both people on the left and on the right cherry pick and often aren't philosophically consistent in their thought process.  

This video is a good example of people.

 

[Danioover9000]

@Hatfort

11 hours ago, Hatfort said:

If it's a conspiracy against him for his views, why isn't for example Joe Rogan getting the same treatment? I'm sure he has been with multiple women too. If it was that easy to get false allegations for Brand, why wouldn't it be for Rogan too, and shut another truth-teller about vaccines and stuff?

I'm sorry, but the investigation seems consistent. The guy was a monster. He may have embraced a spiritual route last years, I'm sure he has improved, but the girls he hurt are allowed to come back from his past and not be fine.

YouTube did well according to their guidelines because it's not only about content. If a creator damages their corporate image with their life apart from the videos, they can and should take measures. To put an extreme example, if a serial killer of children would upload party song videos, wouldn't YouTube be allowed to demonetize or cut his content just because his videos are okay? Hell no, fuck him, banned, and so his content and videos. Elon Musk would be glad to show them in X anyway.

   Because Joe Rogan is part of the dark intellectual web, plus he's connected to Lex Fridman and Elon Musk and a few other shady figures. Maybe he has powerful friends in the background?

   Are they launching an official investigation now? I also agree with you on an intuitive level and from what I've analyzed of his tonality and body language, just suspicious to me.

   I have mixed feelings about YouTube, I would agree if they have explicit guidelines and policies against not just convicted or those accused of rape, but of every criminal act, of any convicted person if they have specific rules against I would agree. However, compared to the forum guidelines YouTube's guidelines is horrendously implicit and lots of wiggle room for interpretation, by YT Channels to abuse, and by YT staff or algorithm to abuse. For example, there was a YT Channel called Mr. Girl, who now has just mr.girl.tv. His Channel was taken down because Nick Fuentes gang mass reported on few of his rap songs about pedophilia, even though most of his content is mature themed and provocative/trollism to trigger awareness in the viewer, no YouTube didn't consider the nuances of his Channel and the mass reporting by an outside community manipulating the report system, instead takes his Channel down and complies with a bunch of users that are outside of YouTube.