Russell Brand is being accused of rape

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

1 minute ago, Sidra khan said:

? Don't hide it, she may like it thinking that you're self sufficient, at least that makes you sexually less needy ?

Oh, no. Trust me, if any female ever saw my collection I'd be toast, called a creep. ??

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

^"Text consent" ? definitely as creepy as it gets. Should she also fill out your sex survey?

 

It's very simple. If she starts acting sus just stop, get off her and leave her alone in the place. Go and find the next one who's sexual preferences match that of your own.

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

No, just personalized ?

[Scholar]

1 hour ago, Seed said:

And what if after sending the 'consent'' text, the man starts fucking the girl too hard, forces her into a postion she is not comfortable with or just just doesnt stop when / if she has had enough. IS there a consent form for the positions allowed, the duration of the sex, the type? 

You see - there is no 'easy' solution, Having sex with someone you dont know well or trust is risky for both parties. So just dont take any risks unless you trust them enough to not claim rape if you have not raped them.#

To avoid being accused of rape, at any point, before or during the encounter - if the woman says 'no'. You stop. You get off. And you do NOT try and change her mind.

It really is as 'simple' as that to not rape someone. 

The issues you are talking about are false accusations which will be highly minimised if you take consideration and thought into who you place your penis inside. The same applies  if you dont want to get yourself or anyone else hurt - then you dont drink or drive... same applies to dont drink and fuck. Especially strangers. That is like driving some random car from a scrap heap and getting angry when and sad when it blows up on your face. ? 

Sex is risky as is driving. Take precautions… it’s really not rocket science. 
 

1. Trust the person

2. Be sober enough to drive a car if you are going to shag, particularly in the early days

3. Be aware of how she’s feeling if she indicates she’s not interested or not enjoying it. You stop. This could be in the form of pushing you off, saying no, freezing up, crying. Use your brain and if it’s too complicated then just don’t have sexual encounters with  anyone.  

 

None of this will happen because people are immature. They will not listen to your advice because they are immature, and they want to engage in casual sex however they want because this is the cultural norm.

Casual sex culture combined with lack of maturity among the population will always lead to this problem, there is no advice you can give people to avoid this as long as this persists.

[LSD-Rumi]

4 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

 

Timeline of sexual assault Russell Brand

2012

A woman alleges that Brand raped her against a wall at his Los Angeles home in July 2012 after she refused to join him in sexual activity with “a friend” of Brand. She alleges that she told Brand to get off her and that she wanted to leave, but he carried on and briefly blocked the door to prevent her from leaving afterwards.

She told the Sunday Times she was treated at a Rape Treatment Centre that same day, and had therapy treatment there for five months. Records seen by the Sunday Times show she contemplated criminal or civil proceedings but ultimately decided against it.

After the incident, Brand sent her text messages apologising for what happened and describing his behaviour as “crazy and selfish”. It happened the same month that Brand’s divorce from the singer Katy Perry was finalised.

2013

A woman who told the Sunday Times she had met Brand at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting before they started working together claims he sexually assaulted her at his home in Los Angeles. She alleges he tried to kiss her and remove her clothes as he pinned her down, and she shouted at him to stop. “I was screaming: ‘What are you doing, stop, please, you’re my friend,’” she said.

She claims he eventually relented but he “flipped” and shouted at her, saying she was fired. She claims that years later she spoke to someone who had been working on a project with Brand and was outside the house at the time of the incident. He allegedly apologised for not helping her, and said: “I heard you screaming” and: “We were all so scared of him.”

Brand allegedly threatened the woman later with legal action if she told anyone about her allegation, and she said she never formally reported him because she feared it would affect her career.

 

22 hours ago, Optimized Life said:

 

If this is true, then he is a true sexual predator. I don't know if he is still the same man after his alleged "spiritual transformation". I knew from the unhinged video he posted initially that something is not right.

Edited September 18, 2023 by LSD-Rumi

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

2 hours ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

Oh, no. Trust me, if any female ever saw my collection I'd be toast, called a creep. ??

DAMN. Who would've thunk that Mahavatar Babaji has such a spicy porn collection?

[Buck Edwards]

5 hours ago, Seed said:

And what if after sending the 'consent'' text, the man starts fucking the girl too hard, forces her into a postion she is not comfortable with or just just doesnt stop when / if she has had enough. IS there a consent form for the positions allowed, the duration of the sex, the type? 

You see - there is no 'easy' solution, Having sex with someone you dont know well or trust is risky for both parties. So just dont take any risks unless you trust them enough to not claim rape if you have not raped them.#

To avoid being accused of rape, at any point, before or during the encounter - if the woman says 'no'. You stop. You get off. And you do NOT try and change her mind.

It really is as 'simple' as that to not rape someone. 

The issues you are talking about are false accusations which will be highly minimised if you take consideration and thought into who you place your penis inside. The same applies  if you dont want to get yourself or anyone else hurt - then you dont drink or drive... same applies to dont drink and fuck. Especially strangers. That is like driving some random car from a scrap heap and getting angry when and sad when it blows up on your face. ? 

Sex is risky as is driving. Take precautions… it’s really not rocket science. 
 

1. Trust the person

2. Be sober enough to drive a car if you are going to shag, particularly in the early days

3. Be aware of how she’s feeling if she indicates she’s not interested or not enjoying it. You stop. This could be in the form of pushing you off, saying no, freezing up, crying. Use your brain and if it’s too complicated then just don’t have sexual encounters with  anyone.  

 

I think you're being too simplistic about it. Would you risk not having casual sex just because someone might accuse you of rape? That's like saying don't drive because people die in accidents everyday. Everything in life is a risk. How would you know how the woman is going to react in the future if you reject her and she is not able to take it well? That's not written on her face. You talk about trust the person. On what basis are you supposed to be trusting a person? What makes a random woman more trustworthy?

The consent form is a good idea in general. Regarding bad behavior later, you gotta learn to play safe. Don't consent to a strange guy to begin with. Do some background check on the dude you wanna consent to. Get to know him better. Carry a pepper spray. Meet him in public first. Have sex where you can easily escape, like a car. Not a hotel room. Learn some self defense moves. Have the cops on speed dial. There are options to stay safe. If you are open about the idea of your sexual rendezvous to be public, then maybe install a security camera in your bedroom that can capture the guy forcing himself onto you. So you have evidence. In case nothing panned out. The best option is to let the guy know that you care about boundaries. In my opinion, most guys would be scared to bed a random woman, much less rape her, unless the guy is a sociopath. Most men are scared to approach women, lest they be deemed a creep. An average guy would try his best to make you feel safe, simply because he doesn't wanna fuck up his date with you or come across as awkward/socially uncalibrated. 

But at least with consent rules, the trouble is greatly minimized. Also it's nice to include what kind of sex can be anticipated, so there's little confusion or misunderstanding. I don't see why a woman would refuse a man who is only trying to keep it all safe for both of them. Isn't it better to know what kind of sex he wants. 

Regarding your third point, that goes without saying, if she says no, time to stop and let go. That doesn't take much brains, I think if a girl says no mid sex, the poor dude is just gonna freak out wondering if he failed to please her. Most guys would find such an encounter (especially if it's their first time) intimidating anyway. Read about premature ejaculation and performance anxiety, it's not easy. 

 

[Francis777]

infinite waters on YouTube has just put out a video discussing this. He gives a very non biased review with lots of different sources for perspective.

One of which was a woman claiming, how she actually got reached out to by channel 4 to be in the documentary they were making about him regarding these allegations but that she then got told that she wouldn't be in it because her story "didn't fit the narrative".

And then he goes over the opposite side of the argument as to why just because women with proclaimed direct experience of him treating them very well, does not mean that he didn't treat others very poorly.

Other things the consider maybe.

Edited September 18, 2023 by Francis777

[ZenAlex]

Watch this video - 

It's clear that he's likely guilty, he was kissing people without consent on live TV

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&si=aa_7Ulk-lWO2yUYb&v=G2Ld92qNFoM&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=uwho22

[Yimpa]

I’ve never inserted my thing into another person because my brain was never wired to do that, no joke.

Does any scientist want to research my brain?

[Yimpa]

If a woman has to communicate with you multiple times that she doesn’t want to be fucked with, then it is you that is being immature. Not the woman. Blaming the woman for your lack of good judgement is immature ass fuck.

Edited September 18, 2023 by Yimpa

[Francis777]

43 minutes ago, ZenAlex said:

Watch this video - 

It's clear that he's likely guilty, he was kissing people without consent on live TV

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&si=aa_7Ulk-lWO2yUYb&v=G2Ld92qNFoM&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=uwho22

yeah this is definitely over stepping boundaries, uncomfortable watch. 

Edited September 18, 2023 by Francis777

[Raze]

3 hours ago, ZenAlex said:

Watch this video - 

It's clear that he's likely guilty, he was kissing people without consent on live TV

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&si=aa_7Ulk-lWO2yUYb&v=G2Ld92qNFoM&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=uwho22

Nowhere in this video is he kissing people without consent, there is such a thing called body language and reading the room, you don’t have to verbally ask before every kiss.

Even if he was that proves nothing related to any of the allegations.

[Princess Arabia]

Russel Brand is a closeted homosexual. He tries to hide it and he suppresses it. That's obvious to me when I watch his interactions with women on camera. 

Edited September 18, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Danioover9000]

@Zedman

On 2023-09-16 at 6:51 PM, Zedman said:

By 4 women at once after many years. Happens a lot these days.

   I'd say based on his body language and tonality, he seems to be telling to truth mostly, and genuinely believes in what he says, although the edits make this difficult to determine. However, since his past is that of a drug addict and heavy drinker, his baseline consciousness will get altered significantly enough that to him he maybe is dating the women and to himself seems like consensual sex, but in reality his behaviors to those women could have been more rough or bordering rape to them, so unfortunately an investigation might be the way forward here, especially if in those events Russell Brand was partying, high on drugs and alcohol, and the women were too, in which case because drugs and alcohol both sides may believe strongly in their version of events.

   I feel like the main issue is that this topic will be very charged emotionally, for more women and some men, and because of the charged nature both parties will feel very defensive and dodgy in telling their side of the events. There'll be some shame on both sides and risks on both sides, for Russell brand it's his brand image and public figure image at risk, his life, and many more being a celebrity figure himself. The risk for these 4 women and more, is facing the shame and embarrassment for telling what happened to them, if their story is true, or telling their coordinated story in a persuasive way and not being found out for lying. I see as this situation progresses both sides will sunk cost fallacy, both will commit more into their position, both parties will get desperate to defend themselves. It will maybe get heated quickly.

   Another Amber Heard vs Johnny Debt, a bunch of coordinated stories to attack Russell Brand? Or are they telling the truth?

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Russel Brand is a closeted homosexual. He tries to hide it and he suppresses it. That's obvious to me when I watch his interactions with women on camera. 

I don’t think so, he’s said he’s done homosexual acts before, so he isn’t ashamed of it, so I don’t see why he’d stay in the closet. He’s just somewhat feminine.

Edited September 18, 2023 by Raze

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Raze said:

I don’t think so, he’s said he’s done homosexual acts before, so he isn’t ashamed of it. He’s just somewhat feminine.

Ok, I'll just take out the word closeted. 

[Raze]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Ok, I'll just take out the word closeted. 

But he said he didn’t enjoy it and he’s not gay, so if he was gay he’d be closeted. I’m saying he isn’t.

[Princess Arabia]

37 minutes ago, Raze said:

But he said he didn’t enjoy it and he’s not gay, so if he was gay he’d be closeted. I’m saying he isn’t.

Ok doesn't matter you already confirmed what I thought. Maybe not suppressing or closeted but I could tell he either been with men or has it in him. There's still more to him that we haven't seen though.

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, Francis777 said:

One of which was a woman claiming, how she actually got reached out to by channel 4 to be in the documentary they were making about him regarding these allegations but that she then got told that she wouldn't be in it because her story "didn't fit the narrative".

If the story is about Brand's sexual crimes, obviously they will not be interviewing those girls who he didn't force himself on.

It only takes 1 rape for him to be guilty in this area. And he's probably been with 1000 girls. So it's like finding a needle in a haystack.

Edited September 18, 2023 by Leo Gura