Am revisiting the spiral dynamic videos and i have so many questions

[Ash55]

How comes a country like the US has so much stage blue in it yet its much more progressive than the middle east ?
Will stage orange in me ,merge into higher stages, i do value hard work, productivity, efficiency, creativity, and technology but i am i try to not manipulate my way to the top i try to focus on my muse what my heart really want, do lower stages merge into higher one in a healthy manifestation or is the orange in my  is just main stream orange ?, i dont really value gross at all cost but am still in point in my life where i need to focus on success to escape the the toxic dogmatic places that am still stuck in the middle east, if i desire a to be mega successful but point my success in  positive in the positive direction  "i only want to make world class animation and few more projects" i dont wanna be the wealthiest man alive  but i do love working and id love to build big projects doing animation at the level i want requires millions of dollars, i dont wanna be misguided or self deceived and get trapped in the trap of materials  but also wanna grow and achieve big projects and ideas, i hope to get @Leo Gura feedback,


what can i do if my whole family is stage blue and anyone of they that knows about my world view would wanna gaslight me into coming back to religion, i heard a million time the impression that am a bad person and i should come back to god and repent start praying  times a day, go to the mosque to join that cult, is there a way to deal with blue without being effected by them am sick of it honestly i got mentally ill from that (am glad that am succeeding more and more but might take me 2 years before moving out to a better country )  "ill mention again that am form Syria here xd"


since my life is brutally hard i had to leen more conservative the past year, i dont wanna be stuck on lower stages of development, how can i watch out for that
i feel like the left aka stage green is going to far left on so many things is it true i feel like people should have a healthy degree of conservatism is that true too ?



What i should not do while selling my product, and what ideas should watch out for, i feel like i start bullshiting my self on many things lol related to success, i dont wanna live in my own bullshit, its really hard to do conscious business, but its probably doable

also if i value the environment and value other people like sometime if i wanna be effective i need to be tough on the people i wanna  hire (not now am still dont have a lots of money)  because if i lost too much ill end up on the street, but i also care about other human how do i strike a balance should i be super clear with them about how the business works   (if i got x numbers of sales this year  i definitely need few people to help me out next year), how do i hire in a conscious way am really curious to know, because if i were to soft ill suffer if i were too harsh other human will suffer i dont wanna any of that


when would i know if the money am paying is fair since the business nature of things that you are taking risk in that move.

also is it true that stage turquoise is somewhat similar to blue since turquoise has the character building and many things that blue want but cant get ?

can stage yellow be mega successful ? or will it not value success to much so it tend to be not mega successful

can there be someone who is mega successful but also super conscious ? if that is possible i want it but id rather be at budda (oh sorry leo it awake lol well basically mean highest possible levels of wakening but also with being so conscious that i transcend suffering and live my life for someone that is creative and self less thing how i can make people life better "its so easy for me to live in my own bullshit and be self deceived so am asking here to get feedback " ) level than mega successful if both are not possible 


okay one last one is it true that stage green sometime lucks discipline and character makes it weak unrealistic, i feel like stage green has as much limitation as stage orange but its much more conscious to the people suffering and environments  

and how comes that many of the US presidents are stage blue but yets somewhat support the democratic system like bush and older ones, how democracy was created not bey stage green but lower stages on the spiral ?

and is Europe generally speaking more evolve that the US when it comes to spiral development, i feel like Australia  too is already much more green that the average US score

is it also a bad things if i kept going with success even after hitting my old goals "now they are current goals" ? since i love work and creating projects  or should i stop making money lol then

also i remember what families look like at stage green yellow and above ? is there a tangible examples ?are families stables there or its not a matter of spiral development ? since orange pretty much have the most broken relationships cycles should families and relationships last a lifetime or not too and will it usually ?  i see many stage green people as well having solid relationships then it breaks (well its much better than orange but still not very stable if someone wants kids)

okay okay i also remember this is the idea of communism total fantasy lol or what so i think capitalism and communism should co exist is that true ?
what about the idea of a commune that a child doesn't necessary need a mom and dad or with the mom and dad a comminiuty/commune to rise children in a given society is that the future ? with social safety nets  (am trying to image what families would look like at green yellow and turquoise )

[Yimpa]

Take a deep breath 

[Ash55]

1 hour ago, Yimpa said:

Take a deep breath 

* inhales deeply *

[nhoktinvt]

4 hours ago, Ash55 said:

* inhales deeply *

and exhale

[Spiritual Warrior]

Hey man, I love the energy but it seems like you're trying to tackle too many things at once. It's like you're trying to apply spiral dynamics to all of your future plans in life. I'd recommend taking a step back and taking a look at one thing at a time. Maybe try to integrate a stage blue that you feel is healthy to you and not toxic, then when you feel like you have a good grasp on that, start to integrate the more success-driven orange, and keep working your way up as you see fit. 

I don't think anyone here is going to be able to answer your specific questions as a lot of them are personal to your circumstance and you're more than capable of making the assessment yourself if you want to look into them in-depth.

Best of luck to you. 

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, Ash55 said:

How comes a country like the US has so much stage blue in it yet its much more progressive than the middle east ?

What most people don't understand is that much of Middle East is stage Purple, Red, and Blue.

Everywhere is less developed than it seems on the surface.

Edited September 16, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hello from Russia]

28 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What most people don't understand is that much of Middle East is stage Purple, Red, and Blue.

Everywhere is less developed than it seems on the surface.

I often get fears that if I go completely nuts with my life purpose I might get assasinated by one of these guys, zzz

Have you developed any frameworks to cope with it?

You say radical stuff, I remember you mentioned you get death threats. How bad is it?

Edited September 16, 2023 by Hello from Russia

[Leo Gura]

16 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said:

I often get fears that if I go completely nuts with my life purpose I might get assasinated by one of these guys, zzz

Have you developed any frameworks to cope with it?

You say radical stuff, I remember you mentioned you get death threats. How bad is it?

Is your LP to draw cartoons of Muhammad?

[Razard86]

24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Is your LP to draw cartoons of Muhammad?

Leo is on a roll today, keep these jokes coming...funny thing is he is slightly serious...they will target you if you do that crap lol.

[Yimpa]

Even people who you deem a major threat can respect you, that is if you communicate respectfully with them at their level of understanding.

Kind of like this, but in a much more subtle way :

 

Edited September 16, 2023 by Yimpa

[Majed]

@Leo Gura at which stage would you put a country like lebanon ? 

[How to be wise]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Is your LP to draw cartoons of Muhammad?

I.e. is your life purpose to die

Edited September 16, 2023 by How to be wise

[Hello from Russia]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Is your LP to draw cartoons of Muhammad?

Well, my current LP is to be helping advanced self-development (spiritual) teachers and holistic wellness people/retreat centers to brand & market themselves. Basically green-yellow+ wellness and self-development

The problem is that there are a lot of unconventional ideas (of course) and rather woo woo stuff at times. Yoga and meditation is the norm of course. Some shamanic stuff. Some pushing ideas about sexuality, etc. Most of this is talking about deep psychological topics and merging it with spirituality/philosophy and actual practices (and making people do it for practical benefit)

My problem is that due to the nature of my LP in some sense I am serving as "missionary" and trying to "convert" people to this "neo-spirituality" and to these highly advanced forms of living/philosophies

I am afraid some fundamentalists one day might notice me and if I am big enough they decide to do the act of terrorism on me/find and shoot me, etc

I am guilty of consuming a lot of fear porn though on how Christian/Islamic fundametalists treat new age people and demonize them (dedicated long and very biased/rigid episodes on how yoga is demonic for example, etc). Or how these people basically hate Hinduism. There are a lot of hate for Hindu people in islamic world for example, and I am a bit afraid that I will be associated with that as my target audience for Life Purpose is full of yogic people basically. Like around 90% of people are following yogic stuff in one way of the other. Of course they are a bit more new agey, but they pay a lot of respect to India as the culture etc

This is probably a bit irrational. But subconsciously these people entrench some deep fears in me as I watched a ton of rigid stage blue people and was growing up in a very stage blue community here in Russia. So this stuff is not easy for me to not care about

Edited September 17, 2023 by Hello from Russia

[Leo Gura]

@Hello from Russia Any kind of radical leadership position involves some risk of violence. But if you live in a decent place and are respectful with your langauge, the risk is very low.

The key lesson I learned for minimizing risk is to treat people with respect and kindness, even if you totally disagree with them. You have to learn to have political intelligence.

In the online world, pretty much every popular speaker is gonna get death threats. This is pretty normal. People are much meaner online than in-person.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Ash55]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What most people don't understand is that much of Middle East is stage Purple, Red, and Blue.

Everywhere is less developed than it seems on the surface.

well yeah indeed, so i guess wont get a lots of of answers here

 

[Ash55]

23 hours ago, Sidra khan said:

Oh man oh God!!!

 

22 hours ago, nhoktinvt said:

and exhale

 

On 9/16/2023 at 10:18 AM, Yimpa said:

Take a deep breath 

what is it, is my questions out of this world lol

@Spiritual Warrior well i just wanna understand more really that my aim with this post
i am only focusing on success and some yoga that is really
am just really curious to know and understand so many things

and i do read and learn a lot

and  thanks btw

[Yimpa]

2 hours ago, Ash55 said:

what is it, is my questions out of this world lol

I’d be a hypocrite if I said that I don’t have a million things spinning in my mind at times, haha. But it’s good to prioritize contemplating which ideas are most meaningful, and discard ones that are fruitless.

The trick is our mind can convince us that fruitless ideas are meaningful, so watch out 

Edited September 17, 2023 by Yimpa