Ralston Gives A Clear Answer To Metaphysical Love Question

[VeganAwake]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I meant, if you empty your mind, the essence of the absolute is realized, but últimately an empty mind and a full mind are the same, the absolute,just that in the full mind the trees hide the wood. There is no different quality in emptiness compared to fullness, it only seems that way. Imo The error is assuming that there is a wrong activity, which leads to suffering, vs. an enlightening attitude that liberates from it. everything is the absolute. There is just our preference against suffering because it's unpleasant .

Once you have seen this, all you have to do is open yourself to yourself as deep as you can

Awesome, just remember, it's not forcing the mind to be empty....

The mind empties itself under the weight of recognizing it's beliefs are all conditioned BS. 

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[Breakingthewall]

13 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

Awesome, just remember, it's not forcing the mind to be empty....

The mind empties itself under the weight of recognizing it's beliefs are all conditioned BS. 

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The mind attached to beliefs is a stupid mind by definition. Once you let go of stupidity the mind is freed, but that does not mean it is empty, forms constantly arise since that is the nature of the mind, but nothing is interpreted, it is simply reality flowing. Even so, there are barriers, there are levels of depth and clarity with which the mind free of concept perceives itself

[gettoefl]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The mind attached to beliefs is a stupid mind by definition. Once you let go of stupidity the mind is freed, but that does not mean it is empty, forms constantly arise since that is the nature of the mind, but nothing is interpreted, it is simply reality flowing. Even so, there are barriers, there are levels of depth and clarity with which the mind free of concept perceives itself

empty isn't empty of stuff it's stuff being empty of existence

namely everything in your mind is just a smoke and mirror show (ie not solid and independent) that you yourself created

that, is the realization of emptiness in day to day life

Edited September 22, 2023 by gettoefl

[VeganAwake]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The mind attached to beliefs is a stupid mind by definition. Once you let go of stupidity the mind is freed, but that does not mean it is empty, forms constantly arise since that is the nature of the mind, but nothing is interpreted, it is simply reality flowing. Even so, there are barriers, there are levels of depth and clarity with which the mind free of concept perceives itself

Haha, no need to call it stupid but I get what you mean. It occasionally tries its best lol.

Here it just became obvious that the illusion of self/mind desperately attempts to understand and know reality but through its deeply conditioned or biased perspective.

This illusion of self/perspective, spins all kinds of radical stories about how and why reality is the way it is............this is what i refer to as the dream story or matrix but just with a spiritual twist added...... In other words it attempts to grasp the ungraspable absolute or infinity, place it in a box and mark it off as known..... This could also be referred to as spiritual ego, but to each their own I guess. Basically it's always trying to get to a better experience in the future. It never becomes completely satisfied. 

 

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"The interpreter has left the building, I repeat the interpreter has left the building"  ? 

 

 

 

 

 

[Razard86]

2 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Haha, no need to call it stupid but I get what you mean. It occasionally tries its best lol.

Here it just became obvious that the illusion of self/mind desperately attempts to understand and know reality but through its deeply conditioned or biased perspective.

This illusion of self/perspective, spins all kinds of radical stories about how and why reality is the way it is............this is what i refer to as the dream story or matrix but just with a spiritual twist added...... In other words it attempts to grasp the ungraspable absolute or infinity, place it in a box and mark it off as known..... This could also be referred to as spiritual ego, but to each their own I guess. Basically it's always trying to get to a better experience in the future. It never becomes completely satisfied. 

 

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"The interpreter has left the building, I repeat the interpreter has left the building"  ? 

 

 

 

 

 

^^^^This entire post is an interpretation....why does the interpreter pretend...that it isn't interpreting? Maybe because the interpreter....likes to spin its own story about the story of the ego. Don't think you can escape, but you are welcome to deny you haven't escaped....

 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Haha, no need to call it stupid

3 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

 

6 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

 

Stupidity is the attitude of using the relative mind to try to understand the absolute. The relative mind is a configuration of the total mind to function by opposing concepts. It is an incredible survival tool, an evolutionary leap. It's what we're using right now to talk, and our relative minds feed off each other. they grow in complexity and depth. but the relative mind must know what it is, what its limitation is and move away. Stopping does not mean dissapearing because this is impossible, there is only one mind: existence. to deviate is to change frequency, from relative to absolute functioning. The absolute does not define, it does not contrast, it does not draw plot lines, it does not function in a linear way but in a profound way. It is the total mind, which gains in depth the more you open yourself to it, so to yourself 

You can say that what I have said is a story, interpretation. but it is interpretation of the relative mind by the relative mind. the absolute mind does not speak.

Edited September 22, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Stupidity is the attitude of using the relative mind to try to understand the absolute. The relative mind is a configuration of the total mind to function by opposing concepts. It is an incredible survival tool, an evolutionary leap. It's what we're using right now to talk, and our relative minds feed off each other. they grow in complexity and depth. but the relative mind must know what it is, what its limitation is and move away. Stopping does not mean dissapearing because this is impossible, there is only one mind: existence. to deviate is to change frequency, from relative to absolute functioning. The absolute does not define, it does not contrast, it does not draw plot lines, it does not function in a linear way but in a profound way. It is the total mind, which gains in depth the more you open yourself to it, so to yourself 

You can say that what I have said is a story, interpretation. but it is interpretation of the relative mind by the relative mind. the absolute mind does not speak.

Are these two minds separate. Doesn't the Absolute contain the Relative. I'm understanding that the Universe is holographic where every piece contains the whole, so why can't the Relative mind understand the Absolute since it contain the Absolute also. Not contradicting. These are genuine questions trying to understand. Please understand that.

[Scholar]

Also, am I the only one who gets seriousl Bullshido vibes from Peter Ralston? His biography seems completely made up, and I still have not found any proof for any of it.

 

Just give yourself this:

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Peter Ralston was born in San Francisco but raised primarily in Asia. He began studying martial arts at the age of 9 in Singapore. By the age of 20 he had black belts in Judo, Jujitsu, and Karate, had been Sumo champion at his high school in Japan, Judo and fencing champion at UC Berkeley, and had demonstrated proficiency in Kempo, Ch’uan Fa, and Northern Sil Lum Kung Fu. A growing interest in the “internal” martial arts lead him to study T’ai Chi Ch’uan, Hsing I Ch’uan, and Pa Kua Chang.

 

Edited September 22, 2023 by Scholar

[VeganAwake]

1 hour ago, Razard86 said:

^^^^This entire post is an interpretation....why does the interpreter pretend...that it isn't interpreting? Maybe because the interpreter....likes to spin its own story about the story of the ego. Don't think you can escape, but you are welcome to deny you haven't escaped....

 

Well escaping implies that someone is bound.

What's being said is there isn't a real you to escape. It's an illusion of self!

Everything else is just bad interpretation!

 

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[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Are these two minds separate. Doesn't the Absolute contain the Relative. I'm understanding that the Universe is holographic where every piece contains the whole, so why can't the Relative mind understand the Absolute since it contain the Absolute also. Not contradicting. These are genuine questions trying to understand. Please understand that.

I think it can't because the relative mind is a learned function that works by putting things in opposition to other things. Any concept is limited by its opposite. The absolute is unlimited, so the relative mind cannot grasp it, define it. The relative mind collapses when imagining infinity, because it needs to set a limit to be able to imagine it. You have to turn off the relative mind to realize the infinite, the depth that you are. with the relative mind operating, you see yourself as relative.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

I think it can't because the relative mind is a learned function that works by putting things in opposition to other things. Any concept is limited by its opposite. The absolute is unlimited, so the relative mind cannot grasp it, define it. The relative mind collapses when imagining infinity, because it needs to set a limit to be able to imagine it. You have to turn off the relative mind to realize the infinite, the depth that you are. with the relative mind operating, you see yourself as relative.

OK thank you.

[Breakingthewall]

33 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

OK thank you.

You're welcome. I would say that really, nothing is relative, everything is absolute. a dog is absolute. If a dog chases a cat, there is that absolute situation. Neither the dog nor the cat divides the situation into parts, it is a whole happening, or maybe they do, because they have a basic relative mind, but in a very rudimentary level. A human sees it and it really is the absolute appearing as that situation, but the relative mind is going to parcel out and define the entire situation, a state-of-the-art evolutionary function that gives the human enormous power, but creates relativity and gets lost in it. , with which your experience loses vitality, purity, and experience becomes something filtered, dull, dead. More relative mind, more dead. When you were a kid and the relative mind was smaller, the experience was alive ,pure, direct. As you are getting older and the relative mind grows in power, the experience is more filtered. The total life and purity is zero relative mind: the total absolute infinity.

if you think about it now, you will think: what nonsense, there is really a cat and a dog chasing each other. That has been defined by the relative mind, which has classified cat, dog and chase. and it can't get out of there, it will start searching his memory files, creating images, thinking about theories, etc. really that situation is absolute and infinite. It is now in its constant movement that it really is not movement because it is not going anywhere. If you take away the relative mind completely, the chase of the dog and the cat is the immutable absolute total infinity. So the relative mind is creating the experience. Without relative mind , there is not experience, just immutability. Total life now. How the absolute divides itself and creates the relative? Why? I don't know. But the thing is: the relative is not real, it's just a painting in the absolute infinity.

Edited September 22, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Someone here]

???

You guys don't get bored or tired from arguing about this metaphysical woo-woo that has ABSOLUTELY nothing to with ABSOLUTELY anything? 

go stare at a wall for 10 hours straight. 

yup.. i once became enlightened from staring at a cat for 5 hours .

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You're welcome. I would say that really, nothing is relative, everything is absolute. a dog is absolute. If a dog chases a cat, there is that absolute situation. Neither the dog nor the cat divides the situation into parts, it is a whole happening. A human sees it and it really is the absolute appearing as that situation, but the relative mind is going to parcel out and define the entire situation, a state-of-the-art evolutionary function that gives the human enormous power, but creates relativity and gets lost in it. , with which your experience loses vitality, purity, and being becomes something filtered, dull, dead. 

if you think about it now, you will think: what nonsense, there is really a cat and a dog chasing each other. That has been defined by the relative mind, which has classified cat, dog and chase. and he can't get out of there, he will start searching his memory files, creating images, thinking about theories, etc. really that situation is absolute and infinite. It is now in its constant movement that it really is not movement because it is not going anywhere. If you take away the relative mind completely, the chase of the dog and the cat is the immutable absolute total infinity

So, the relative perception is the illusion and the Absolute the real thing. Dual VS. Non-Dual. Appearance/Happening. So everything is Absolute in Reality only appearing relative. No separation. No distinction. No difference. All One happening simultaneously. Is that all correct.

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, Someone here said:

???

You guys don't get bored or tired from arguing about this metaphysical woo-woo that has ABSOLUTELY nothing to with ABSOLUTELY anything? 

go stare at a wall for 10 hours straight. 

yup.. i once became enlightened from staring at a cat for 5 hours .

This comment has Absolutely nothing to do with the topic and you're hijacking the thread with absurdities and rudeness. Please take your own advice and scrutinize your own behavior as this is not your so called thread. Remember. Would you rather us argue about "banging bitches" as you like to refer to women and your sex life as.

Edited September 22, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Someone here]

@Princess Arabia chillax.  I'm just cooling the atmosphere with some humor.

On a serious note again as well...all this philosophical debates will lead to NOWHERE. 

Reality cannot be figured out.  Reality is appearance.  It's exactly as it appears to be . Right here and right now.  Non-duality my ass . nothing complicated about it. 

What ?

Where ?

When ?

How ?

Why ?

 

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

chillax.  I'm just cooling the atmosphere with some humor

I did that on your thread and you called me out on that. This is why it's best to hold off on criticisms as they usually come back to bite us in the ass. Now chillax and stay on topic.

Edited September 22, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

It's exactly as it appears to be

And what does it appear to be.

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, Someone here said:

yup.. i once became enlightened from staring at a cat for 5 hours .

Go stare at a pussy. Maybe you'll find God.

Edited September 22, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Go stare at a pussy. Maybe you'll find God.

He's too busy banging them.

Edited September 22, 2023 by Princess Arabia