Ralston Gives A Clear Answer To Metaphysical Love Question

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Mind control doesn't work on me bud. Try it on the next guy 

I told you exactly how it is.

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

We can't all be perfect

No, we sure can't.   It's about time you showed some humility. 

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

No, we sure can't.   It's about time you showed some humility. 

I'm more humble than you

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

I'm more humble than you

Perhaps.

[Francis777]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

No, we sure can't.   It's about time you showed some humility. 

Agreed, why don’t we all start by questioning our assumptions?

Wait my bad, there’s no more work left for you to do, pointless exercise carry on.

Edited September 20, 2023 by Francis777

[Inliytened1]

11 minutes ago, Francis777 said:

Agreed, why don’t we all start by questioning our assumptions?

Wait my bad, there’s no more work left for you to do, pointless exercise carry on.

There's plenty of work in the self improvement area.  There's none with God realization.   If you think that's infinite you are sadly mistaken and have failed to look within.

[Osaid]

30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Your enlightenment is a mild form of higher consciousness. What I teach is beyond that.

No. You've put enlightenment in a relative model of "higher" and "lower." Not possible because those are dualisms. You've been putting enlightening states on a pedestal this entire time, so you are doing the same thing with the phenomenon of enlightenment. You are assuming that it is inherent to some specific state or way of viewing things.

What you teach really does not incorporate enlightenment at any level. It's just awakenings and radical states of consciousness. You're not understanding that "degrees of consciousness" have nothing to do with Truth or enlightenment or reality. You're like a scientist misinterpreting their results. Things are being conflated. 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Osaid

[Francis777]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

There's plenty of work in the self improvement area.  There's none with God realization.   If you think that's infinite you are sadly mistaken and have failed to look within.

Suit yourself

[Francis777]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

There's none with God realization.   If you think that's infinite you are sadly mistaken

I’ve never insinuated in any posts that this is my perspective, I’ll just keep it open for now, doesn’t hurt to right?

[StarStruck]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

TRUTH = LOVE is one of the most shocking and important realizations I've ever had. And if I had taken Ralston's ideas on love seriously I would have never had this realization.

Ralston is in effect gaslighting his students about Love.

David Hawkins wrote this in his books decades ago. 

[Leo Gura]

Funny enough, if Ralston had written about God in his books I would have probably thrown them away and never finished reading them. Because I was such an athiest when I got into spirituality.

Oh how the tables turn.

Edited September 20, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Razard86]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

That's because you are genetically incapable of reaching God Consciousness naturally.   It's nothing to be ashamed about.  Leo, and many others,  are in the same boat as you.   IQ just won't cut it, sadly.  It's heart, all the way.

 

This part is false.

Its heart part is correct. EVERYONE who focuses on the heart can reach God Consciousness. Why? Because it's your true nature. It's the ABSOLUTE which means its not bound by something as silly and petty as genetics. The only thing that seperates you from God-Consciousness is bias and fear of death. That's it. 

The bias part is the part that is tricky for most people. One of the barriers will be your hatred for humanity, which is equal to your hatred for your avatar. You won't even be able to drop the identity of human if you cannot let go of your hatred of your life and the people you have dealt with.

Also everyone on here is just splitting hairs.

1. God Realization is the final awakening in which you confirm you are God

2. Leo is just saying there are more ways to experience this Realization and with those experiences his

perspective/paradigm has shifted.

Both are right.

Edited September 20, 2023 by Razard86

[Cubbage]

One is all, All is one ?

[Yimpa]

5 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

perfect example, this place is a fucking echoe chamber

An echo of Love 

[BlessedLion]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

We can't all be perfect

 

Edited September 20, 2023 by BlessedLion

[BlessedLion]

3 hours ago, OBEler said:

Please someone here can contact Peterson and just tell him, that there is this actualized forum where people discuss weeks and month about an Interview with Leo gura and himself about love as truth. And if he realized Love deeply or not

i'll see him in 2 weeks and tell him

[BlessedLion]

4 hours ago, Osaid said:

why all enlightenments across history basically happened "sober" and without psychedelics. It just doesn't work ultimately. 

Yes!

This is why there is no "psychedelic path"! They have been around for-fucking-ever and not one person has created a legit path through the use of psychedelics. Not really. 

And the reason is not due to stigma, yes that plays a big role, but the truth is that it's because they have a limited return on investment, and limit you spiitually and in the worst cases run you into delusion and ungroundedness. 

Also, at the end of the day you want your consciousness to rest and depend on your nuts and nothing else. What i mean is, your nuts are always with you, a psychedelic trip comes and goes. Being able to expereince God when you wake up, take a shit, stand in line, now that is something impressive.

[BlessedLion]

4 hours ago, Dazgwny said:

ou’re not grasping, that you can’t grasp it. It’s like you think you’ve got it, in your clutches

You're not grasping, that is absolutely is graspable and you can be "done", in terms of enlightenment.

[BlessedLion]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't expect that.

Yes! DO Expect that! When you realize your body is the body of God which is every place you can ever be you are literally surronded by yourself and Being-ness, and that is always with you

[BlessedLion]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

f Ralston had written about God in his books I would have probably thrown them away and never finished reading them. Because I was such an athiest when I got into spirituality.

Perhaps this is why he doesn't mention those things?