Leo, I don't 100% agree with you on the idea that voters don't vote based on policy

[Hardkill]

I agree that most people vote for a candidate based on their vibe, appearance, and whose cultural values align the most with the majority of their constituents. However, I don't agree that most voters don't care about a politician's policies. 

If most people didn't care at all about the policies of a candidate's or office holder's policies, then why have a lot of everyday voters rewarded an office holder who have made bold, dynamic changes in government policy?

For example, why did most voters during the New Deal era say that one of the main reasons that kept voting for FDR again and again was because they loved his transformative life-saving policies?

How come did the enactment of LBJ's Great Society programs cost many Democrats in Congress their careers?

What about the fact that one big reason Reagan got re-elected president was because during his time most voters really liked his seismic changes and long lasting influence in economic policy in America including his major tax cuts, great amount of deregulation, and big increase in military spending? 

Why do most voters in West Virginia disapprove of Joe Manchin ever since he voted for Biden's signature IRA about a year ago, even though that legislation was relatively moderate and he has been well known for being the most conservative democratic politician in the country?

Edited September 11, 2023 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

They like it when a politician takes bold action towards a larger vision which he sold them.

A politician doesn't sell policy, he sells a general vision or ethos, such as: "Stop the woke crap" or "Down with corporate power".

Edited September 11, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They like it when a politician takes bold action towards towards a larger vision which he sold them.

So, how is that not appealing to voters based on policy?

I remember when Kyle Kulinski mentioned a poll that shows how the vast majority of young voters all around the country are really liking how Biden is pushing as hard as he can on student debt cancellation and he said, "You see. Good policy is good politics."

Edited September 11, 2023 by Hardkill

[itsadistraction]

5 hours ago, Hardkill said:

I agree that most people vote for a candidate based on their vibe, appearance, and whose cultural values align the most with the majority of their constituents. However, I don't agree that most voters don't care about a politician's policies. 

If most people didn't care at all about the policies of a candidate's or office holder's policies, then why have a lot of everyday voters rewarded an office holder who have made bold, dynamic changes in government policy?

For example, why did most voters during the New Deal era say that one of the main reasons that kept voting for FDR again and again was because they loved his transformative life-saving policies?

How come did the enactment of LBJ's Great Society programs cost many Democrats in Congress their careers?

What about the fact that one big reason Reagan got re-elected president was because during his time most voters really liked his seismic changes and long lasting influence in economic policy in America including his major tax cuts, great amount of deregulation, and big increase in military spending? 

Why do most voters in West Virginia disapprove of Joe Manchin ever since he voted for Biden's signature IRA about a year ago, even though that legislation was relatively moderate and he has been well known for being the most conservative democratic politician in the country?

Take at look at your own voting habits, that might give you a clue how people actually vote. You might be a rare voter who votes completely consciously but most likely you make some decisions based on gut feel. 

Edited September 11, 2023 by itsadistraction

[Bobby_2021]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

They like it when a politician takes bold action towards a larger vision which he sold them.

A politician doesn't sell policy, he sells a general vision or ethos, such as: "Stop the woke crap" or "Down with corporate power".

What do you think of Vivek Ramaswamy? The guy seems to be a policy nerd. 

[Chives99]

Do you read the terms and conditions ? No that's long and boring. Neither do voters they get the abbreviated rhetoric that is spouted by the politician that's overly idealistic

[Sucuk Ekmek]

If voting mattered, it'd be illegal.

[Yimpa]

It’s good that you don’t agree with Leo 100%. That would turn you into an Actualized Rat.