Does anything compare to MDMA?

[Ryan M]

Is there a substance that's anywhere near as blissful as MDMA? Looking for something that's at least somewhat close to as amazing when going out and being social with other people. Not looking to take something all the time, maybe just once a month. Only reason i'm looking for an alternative is because mdma is so harsh/toxic on the brain

[OBEler]

@Ryan M I would recommend 5meo mipt. 

It is not exactly like Mdma, but it is save to take. No hangover. And very lovely, energetic, erotic energy 

[Grateful Dead]

No, there is nothing like MDMA. For going out I like a small dose of shrooms or LSD in combination with cannabis. Amphetamine is also fine if you keep the dose low.

[LSD-Rumi]

@Ryan M 6-APB, 5-MPAB, 3-FEA, 5 meo-MIPT, 4-FMA. 

[D2sage]

Nothing compares to good ol soberity.

[flowboy]

Mescaline did it for me. But it also includes a stiff trip, which then later turns into the euphoric connecty experience. So you'd have to be ready for both.

[Davino]

This drug was designed to substitute MDMA without the side effects. I plan on trying it after AL-LAD

Blue Bliss pellets (5-MAPB+2-FMA+5-MeO-MiPT)

[LSD-Rumi]

Oh there is this substance called AMT. It is a tryptamine but it acts mainly as an empathogen.

But it is a powerful SNRI, so becareful combining it with antidepressants.

Edited September 7, 2023 by LSD-Rumi

[Breakingthewall]

2 cb or 6apb aka benzofury perform a similar function with less hangover, but some hangover. but for me the perfect substitute is 40/ 50 ug of lsd

Edited September 7, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Ryan M]

15 hours ago, flowboy said:

Mescaline did it for me. But it also includes a stiff trip, which then later turns into the euphoric connecty experience. So you'd have to be ready for both.

Do you get sick when you take Mescaline? Also I'm curious what you mean by stiff trip

[Oppositionless]

MDA and 2CB

[PurpleTree]

shrooms

i always go through hell first but then sometimes it gets blissful, even a lot more than mdma but the hell before is so scary that i‘m avoiding it

2cb can be a bit similar but also scarier than mdma

Edited September 9, 2023 by PurpleTree

[Oppositionless]

@PurpleTree I think that's a pretty atypical reaction to MDMA

[PurpleTree]

7 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

@PurpleTree I think that's a pretty atypical reaction to MDMA

What?

[kamwalker]

On 9/8/2023 at 9:08 PM, PurpleTree said:

shrooms

i always go through hell first but then sometimes it gets blissful, even a lot more than mdma but the hell before is so scary that i‘m avoiding it

2cb can be a bit similar but also scarier than mdma

Yeah shrooms basically make you feel like shit for the first 1-2 hours and you're asking yourself why you even did them, and then once you've worked through the tough part the euphoria and bliss kicks in. Not every time though. But when it does I'm like why the hell do I bother with MDMA?! This shit works and feels better and I can grow it in my house 

[Ry4n]

On 6/9/2023 at 5:04 PM, Ryan M said:

Is there a substance that's anywhere near as blissful as MDMA? Looking for something that's at least somewhat close to as amazing when going out and being social with other people. Not looking to take something all the time, maybe just once a month. Only reason i'm looking for an alternative is because mdma is so harsh/toxic on the brain

A few beers after a gram of shrooms is a similar feeling to MDMA. Purely recreational obviously. 

Edited September 11, 2023 by Ry4n

[PurpleTree]

19 hours ago, kamwalker said:

Yeah shrooms basically make you feel like shit for the first 1-2 hours and you're asking yourself why you even did them, and then once you've worked through the tough part the euphoria and bliss kicks in. Not every time though. But when it does I'm like why the hell do I bother with MDMA?! This shit works and feels better and I can grow it in my house 

Hehe yea it’s wild. In the bad phase i regret it so much that i took them. Nooo not again the shrooms have tricked me into taking them and now i’m trapped forever. But then the blissful part is amazing

[PsychedelicEagle]

I went to a festival this weekend and took a chocolate candy supposedly containing peyote powder. Looking back, I should have tested it before proceeding . Anyway, the experience was similar to what @flowboy described above. I intend to try mescaline again to confirm this.

Edited August 20 by PsychedelicEagle

[Cireeric]

When I first did 400mg of Phenibut the peak of it almost felt like MDMA, which is crazy since the substance last a very long time. It is very good for socializing and u still feel good the next day. But I could only do it 3 or 4 times then it lost its magic. 

[Javfly33]

29 minutes ago, Cireeric said:

When I first did 400mg of Phenibut the peak of it almost felt like MDMA, which is crazy since the substance last a very long time. It is very good for socializing and u still feel good the next day. But I could only do it 3 or 4 times then it lost its magic. 

Yeap, phenibut is a good one