How do female sex workers deal with being slut-shamed?

[Hardkill]

We know that one of the biggest fears that women have is being judged as a slut. So, how do female sex workers including women who are pornstars, prostitutes, strippers, or what have you deal with being perceived as sluts? Do they just accept the fact that most people will believe them to be not relationship material?

Edited September 1, 2023 by Hardkill

[Phil King]

Some of them probably like it, unironically. 

20 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Do they just accept the fact that most people will believe them to be not relationship material?

There will always be people begging to be in a relationship with them. Its just that they usually will not be emotionally able for the relationship to succeed very long

[Hardkill]

9 minutes ago, Phil King said:

Some of them probably like it, unironically. 

There will always be people begging to be in a relationship with them. Its just that they usually will not be emotionally able for the relationship to succeed very long

There are a lot of guys who want to be in a relationship with them, but will a lot more guys reject a sex worker for an LTR than a girl who is not a sex worker?

 

[Phil King]

6 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

a lot more guys reject a sex worker for an LTR than a girl who is not a sex worker?

its hard to say. I think especially in milennials and younger generations, men would be much more likely to consider it. Just look at the entire 2019 NBA draft class. Zion williamson dated Moriah Mills, Pj washington married brittany renner, Lamelo ball has dated pornstars that are like 10 years older than him, etc. I think theyre were some young NFL players who also dated strippers and pornstars. Also note how all of those relationships have ended in disaster. Im sure that the idea of dating a girl that millions of people jack off to is alluring, but the reality is that theyre probably emotional trainwrecks and not marriage material

 

[Raze]

11 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

There are a lot of guys who want to be in a relationship with them, but will a lot more guys reject a sex worker for an LTR than a girl who is not a sex worker?

 

OF models and pornstars actually get endless offers and proposals from their armies of simps. The problem is these women usually became pretty wealthy and are used to sleeping with higher status guys so they don’t want any of them, and it’s way harder to lock down a high status guy especially if you had that career.

[Hardkill]

4 minutes ago, Phil King said:

its hard to say. I think especially in milennials and younger generations, men would be much more likely to consider it. Just look at the entire 2019 NBA draft class. Zion williamson dated Moriah Mills, Pj washington married brittany renner, Lamelo ball has dated pornstars that are like 10 years older than him, etc. I think theyre were some young NFL players who also dated strippers and pornstars. Also note how all of those relationships have ended in disaster. Im sure that the idea of dating a girl that millions of people jack off to is alluring, but the reality is that theyre probably emotional trainwrecks and not marriage material

 

 

3 minutes ago, Raze said:

OF models and pornstars actually get endless offers and proposals from their armies of simps. The problem is these women usually became pretty wealthy and are used to sleeping with higher status guys so they don’t want any of them, and it’s way harder to lock down a high status guy especially if you had that career.

So, then why does any woman these days have to worry anymore about being slut shamed?

Edited September 1, 2023 by Hardkill

[Phil King]

3 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So, then why does any woman these days have to worry anymore about being slut shamed?

Most slut shaming comes from women, not men

[Raze]

3 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So, then why does any woman these days have to worry anymore about being slut shamed?

They don’t have to worry about it as much, but it can still have some consequences and people still generally care about others opinions of them even if it’s irrational.

[Hardkill]

2 minutes ago, Phil King said:

Most slut shaming comes from women, not men

I don't think that's true.

Men are naturally hardwired to want a woman to be pure enough in order to make sure that her child is also his own. Also, most men want to eventually be taken seriously as a responsible family man who is married to a woman whose reputation hasn't been tarnished.

Edited September 1, 2023 by Hardkill

[Raze]

35 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

I don't think that's true. Men are naturally hardwired to want a woman to be pure enough in order to make sure that her child is also his own. Also, most men want to eventually be taken seriously as a responsible family man who is married to a woman whose reputation hasn't been tarnished.

That doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll use shame on the women, I believe a study found men who sleep with new women regularly tend to not shame sluts, they may not want to commit to them but they don’t critique them. Women on the other hand are naturally inclined to use shame because other women are her competition.

[Princess Arabia]

You guys have no idea what goes through the mind of a sex worker from whichever category vs. the average female on the street. You're not going to find too many sex workers in swingers clubs where regular people just flaunt themselves and having all kinds of sex with anyone they find attractive and everybody in there kissing and making out with random strangers.

 You won't find too many sex workers in multiple partner relationships at one time. You won't find too many sex workers stuffing their tongues down random guys throats just for the hell of it, not even working. You won't find too many sex workers having unprotected sex when I've come across numerous men who were more than willing to engage in all the above.

I've come across many young girls, whether they're in college or work regular jobs and who are not in the sex field, who goes out on the weekends in droves scantily dressed and swinging their backside all over the place and hooking up with numerous random guys in elevators or parking lots. 

You can just spot them a mile away. I've seen numerous regular people engaging in promiscuity all over the place and most of these women are either nurses, ckerks, assistances, whatever kind of regular jobs you can think of excluding the sex industry. Depending on the strip club, most guys can't even touch the girls. Yes, they have a champagne room where more things go on, but it's still business. It's part of the job. Being in the sex industry is not promiscuity, it is a job. It is your problem if you don't see it as such. The content is different than a regular job, but it is still a job, that clients are happy to patronize. It is your problem if you want to get personal with it, not the worker. It is your problem if you consider the workers sluts. It is your problem if you want to look down on a sex worker and try to shame her. I've personally been repulsed by men who will sleep with Mary, Sue, Karen or Kiki just because they are horny pigs. I'm more repulsed by guys who want to sleep with a different girl every week just because he's horny. I'm more repulsed by men who lie and cheat on their wives just to get laid. I'm more repulsed by men who would fuck a strange woman without a condom or even engage in oral sex with a strange woman they just met without worrying if she has herpes or not. I'm more repulsed by hypocritical men who are dogging down the town preying on women just to get laid without caring about her and her well being. 

There are more regular women out there engaging in random sex and hook-ups with men they meet online or in person just for the hell of it. Why is there shame in trying to make a living using your precious resources if men are willing to pay for it. It is a shame for any woman to just open her legs for random Tom who just uses her and throws her away. That's the shame. It is a shame where so many men are out raping drunk women and taking advantage of their drunkness. It is a shame when men think a woman is promiscuous if she is behind a camera making money off her boobs to pay her rent for horny married guys who just go around laying up all kinds of different women every week. It is a shame when the same guys who are disgusted with the business are the ones out looking for whores and prostitutes to lay up with. It is a shame when a guy might not like you and dispises you, but he is still willing to bang you because he can't keep his dick in his pants. "He might still fuck you, but doesn't mean he respects you" is a common term floating around. That's the shame. 

I wish more women would keep their legs closed for you horny hypocrites who look down on women for the same shit you're doing only worse. There could never be a lucrative sex industry if it weren't for the millions of men who patronize it, but it's the women who are being shamed for this. All kinds of loyal, monogamous married women out their getting abused by their husbands and getting cheated on by them and who are having unprotected sex with all kinds of regular non sex working women, why don't we shame those men. No, it's the women's fault, or if they are seeing prostitutes it's the prostitutes fault for preying on his weekness, it's her fault why men cheat on their wives. If it wasn't for prostitutes men wouldn't have this option or some other kind of bullshit story.

 Can we start making threads and posts about men who cant keep their dicks in their pants, can we make threads about men who cheat, can we make posts about men who wants to fuck multiple women and goes out preying on drunk women, can we make posts about women who keeps giving it up for free without a commitment, can we start making posts about men who constantly use women for sex and who doesn't give a shit about her, can we make those kinds of posts instead of always worrying about sex workers who couldn't care less what others think about them. Can we make posts about rapists and gang bangers, who should be ashamed of themselves. Can we make posts about these things. Sex workers are out getting paid. Don't worry about them.

 

 

 

Edited September 2, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Raze]

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You guys have no idea what goes through the mind of a sex worker from whichever category vs. the average female on the street. You're not going to find too many sex workers in swingers clubs where regular people just flaunt themselves and having all kinds of sex with anyone they find attractive and everybody in there kissing and making out with random strangers.

 You won't find too many sex workers in multiple partner relationships at one time. You won't find too many sex workers stuffing their tongues down random guys throats just for the hell of it, not even working. You won't find too many sex workers having unprotected sex when I've come across numerous men who were more than willing to engage in all the above.

I've come across many young girls, whether they're in college or work regular jobs and who are not in the sex field, who goes out on the weekends in droves scantily dressed and swinging their backside all over the place and hooking up with numerous random guys in elevators or parking lots. 

You can just spot them a mile away. I've seen numerous regular people engaging in promiscuity all over the place and most of these women are either nurses, ckerks, assistances, whatever kind of regular jobs you can think of excluding the sex industry. Depending on the strip club, most guys can't even touch the girls. Yes, they have a champagne room where more things go on, but it's still business. It's part of the job. Being in the sex industry is not promiscuity, it is a job. It is your problem if you don't see it as such. The content is different than a regular job, but it is still a job, that clients are happy to patronize. It is your problem if you want to get personal with it, not the worker. It is your problem if you consider the workers sluts. It is your problem if you want to look down on a sex worker and try to shame her. I've personally been repulsed by men who will sleep with Mary, Sue, Karen or Kiki just because they are horny pigs. I'm more repulsed by guys who want to sleep with a different girl every week just because he's horny. I'm more repulsed by men who lie and cheat on their wives just to get laid. I'm more repulsed by men who would fuck a strange woman without a condom or even engage in oral sex with a strange woman they just met without worrying if she has herpes or not. I'm more repulsed by hypocritical men who are dogging down the town preying on women just to get laid without caring about her and her well being. 

There are more regular women out there engaging in random sex and hook-ups with men they meet online or in person just for the hell of it. Why is there shame in trying to make a living using your precious resources if men are willing to pay for it. It is a shame for any woman to just open her legs for random Tom who just uses her and throws her away. That's the shame. It is a shame where so many men are out raping drunk women and taking advantage of their drunkness. It is a shame when men think a woman is promiscuous if she is behind a camera making money off her boobs to pay her rent for horny married guys who just go around laying up all kinds of different women every week. It is a shame when the same guys who are disgusted with the business are the ones out looking for whores and prostitutes to lay up with. It is a shame when a guy might not like you and dispises you, but he is still willing to bang you because he can't keep his dick in his pants. "He might still fuck you, but doesn't mean he respects you" is a common term floating around. That's the shame. 

I wish more women would keep their legs closed for you horny hypocrites who look down on women for the same shit you're doing only worse. There could never be a lucrative sex industry if it weren't for the millions of men who patronize it, but it's the women who are being shamed for this. All kinds of loyal, monogamous married women out their getting abused by their husbands and getting cheated on by them and who are having unprotected sex with all kinds of regular non sex working women, why don't we shame those men. No, it's the women's fault, or if they are seeing prostitutes it's the prostitutes fault for preying on his weekness, it's her fault why men cheat on their wives. If it wasn't for prostitutes men wouldn't have this option or some other kind of bullshit story.

 Can we start making threads and posts about men who cant keep their dicks in their pants, can we make threads about men who cheat, can we make posts about men who wants to fuck multiple women and goes out preying on drunk women, can we make posts about women who keeps giving it up for free without a commitment, can we start making posts about men who constantly use women for sex and who doesn't give a shit about her, can we make those kinds of posts instead of always worrying about sex workers who couldn't care less what others think about them. Can we make posts about rapists and gang bangers, who should be ashamed of themselves. Can we make posts about these things. Sex workers are out getting paid. Don't worry about them.

Can you relax, no one was really even criticizing sex workers in this thread.

[Princess Arabia]

41 minutes ago, Raze said:

Can you relax, no one was really even criticizing sex workers in this thread.

You're right. And I also want the OP to know my rant wasn't aimed at him nor any particular person on here. I went off and I apologize for that. I could have easily ignored the post and keep it moving. What happened was I guess i just get tired of seeing these kinds of posts and I also have a little resentment towards society for putting sex workers in a particular category when nothing is as it seems. I'm not saying there aren't some sex workers who act shamefully and are just sleeping around, but the work itself isn't shameful as opposed to what most regular people are engaging in, yet we keep getting a bad wrap only because we're getting paid to do what other people are doing or even worse.

This work, as in any other, depends on who is doing it and how they carry themselves and treat the job. It's just always generalized. I don't have this problem in my personal life because the people that know me personally, know my lifestyle, my personality and I'm far from what most people think most sex workers are like. I come across most men who should be ashamed of what they are doing, if anyone is to be ashamed, than the sex workers themselves, and i'm not really saying they should be ashamed either as my rant may have suggested, I was just ranting. I was more ashamed of myself looking back when I was much younger, just sleeping with guys because I liked them and I was just young and stupid. I wasn't ashamed at the time but just looking back. 

Now that I don't do that anymore, I'm supposed to be a slut for working in the adult industry or being an escort or prostitute. Nothing a woman does will exempt her from being a slut, whore or used up. Sleeping around you're considered a slut, being a prostitute you're considered a slut. I have become closed off from men sexually because of these stigmas. I don't even want to do it anymore with just regular guys because my mind just won't allow it. Women aren't having sex with themselves so guys are also engaging in promiscuous activities but we're the ones getting a bad wrap and being called names, so I just don't do it any more. This is why some women are staying away too and just being gold diggers or searching out a special kind of man. Damn if you do, damn if you don't so fuck that, just don't do it at all, and now incels are born wondering why they can't get laid. 

So, to answer the original question, we don't care about labels anymore, we either abstain or charge. Personally, I don't have sex, very very rare, but I charge for everything else so I'd rather be a paid slut than a used up one. Guys are the ones that are patronizing the sluts, so what does that make them, a slut enabler, you tell me. Prostitutes aren't sluts, if anything regular girls giving it up for nothing on a regular basis with lots of different men are, even though I'm not personally calling them that, just saying.

 

[Hardkill]

3 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

You're right. And I also want the OP to know my rant wasn't aimed at him nor any particular person on here. I went off and I apologize for that. I could have easily ignored the post and keep it moving. What happened was I guess i just get tired of seeing these kinds of posts and I also have a little resentment towards society for putting sex workers in a particular category when nothing is as it seems. I'm not saying there aren't some sex workers who act shamefully and are just sleeping around, but the work itself isn't shameful as opposed to what most regular people are engaging in, yet we keep getting a bad wrap only because we're getting paid to do what other people are doing or even worse.

This work, as in any other, depends on who is doing it and how they carry themselves and treat the job. It's just always generalized. I don't have this problem in my personal life because the people that know me personally, know my lifestyle, my personality and I'm far from what most people think most sex workers are like. I come across most men who should be ashamed of what they are doing, if anyone is to be ashamed, than the sex workers themselves, and i'm not really saying they should be ashamed either as my rant may have suggested, I was just ranting. I was more ashamed of myself looking back when I was much younger, just sleeping with guys because I liked them and I was just young and stupid. I wasn't ashamed at the time but just looking back. 

Now that I don't do that anymore, I'm supposed to be a slut for working in the adult industry or being an escort or prostitute. Nothing a woman does will exempt her from being a slut, whore or used up. Sleeping around you're considered a slut, being a prostitute you're considered a slut. I have become closed off from men sexually because of these stigmas. I don't even want to do it anymore with just regular guys because my mind just won't allow it. Women aren't having sex with themselves so guys are also engaging in promiscuous activities but we're the ones getting a bad wrap and being called names, so I just don't do it any more. This is why some women are staying away too and just being gold diggers or searching out a special kind of man. Damn if you do, damn if you don't so fuck that, just don't do it at all, and now incels are born wondering why they can't get laid. 

So, to answer the original question, we don't care about labels anymore, we either abstain or charge. Personally, I don't have sex, very very rare, but I charge for everything else so I'd rather be a paid slut than a used up one. Guys are the ones that are patronizing the sluts, so what does that make them, a slut enabler, you tell me. Prostitutes aren't sluts, if anything regular girls giving it up for nothing on a regular basis with lots of different men are, even though I'm not personally calling them that, just saying.

 

I wasn't trying to shame sex workers for what they do. I don't believe any women should be slut-shamed at all and I personally have no problem dating a woman who had slept with tons of guys as long as she doesn't have any STDs. 

But given that most people perceived female sex workers to be a sluts I just wonder how does that affect her social life and her ability to get into any relationship with a man?

Edited September 2, 2023 by Hardkill

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, Hardkill said:

I wasn't trying to shame sex workers for what they do. I don't believe any women should be slut-shamed at all and I personally have no problem dating a woman who had slept with tons of guys as long as she doesn't have any STDs. 

But given that most people perceived female sex workers to be a sluts I just wonder how does that affect her social life and her ability to get into any relationship with a man?

Most people don't perceive sex workers to be sluts. Where did you get this notion. They consider them hoes. There's a difference. Hoes get paid sluts don't. The hoes on the streets refer to themselves as hoes. When they talk about other hookers, they sometimes refer to them as hoes. It's their slang term, just like black people refer to themselves and their buddies as niggas.

The guys refer to the girls that sleep around with Tom Dick and Harry around town for nothing sluts. There's no shame in the game for hoes. They're proud of what they're doing; and believe it or not, the men respect them more. This is referring to hookers in the casinos, hotels or on the streets. As far as strippers. They are just dancing semi-nude or nude. No slut shaming there. And for porn stars, they are just porn stars, guys don't refer to them as sluts. In fact, their convention in Vegas is a huge hit. It's idiots that refer to these women as sluts. The sluts are the ones sleeping with different men on a regular basis with no commitment and are just throwing their cuchie around town for guys to use, if people wanna call women sluts. I personally don't, but if you wanna get technical. It's guys who are sleeping with these loose women who call them sluts or guys who can't get laid or guys who can't afford hookers or guys who just down right hate.

Women who call other women sluts don't count and are probably being secretly called sluts themselves. Women will call a girl that stole her boyfriend a slut, women will call a virgin a slut just because she's scantily dressed and guys are hitting on her, women don't count, its a competition and jealousy thing sometimes with them. Believe it or not, except for porn stars, most girls in the overall industry aren't having intercourse with strange men on a regular basis, they're doing other stuff yes, but not a lot are having sex. Why aren't the men considered pigs and dogs for patronizing these workers, if men could do it, they would in a heartbeat. Why are the females in porn considered sluts by some, what about the men. It's the double standard that kills me. Women can't be sluts on their own, they need willing participants. So what are we labelling these men, macho's the Don, players, if anything men are the sluts.

As far as relationships go, idk about their personal lives, for me personally, I'm the one that's weary about guys and their faithfulness, since being in the industry and seeing how many men cheat. I'm the one that think twice. I think for myself and don't get caught up in stigmas and people's ignorance. Men are the horny pigs and are easily swayed by tits and ass, so I'm the one who have to be picky with whom I let into my heart. I'm the one who has to watch out for the players and not getting used just for sex. Money is tangible, so women who use men for their money is nothing compared to a man using women for her precious body. We're the ones who have to worry in this department.

Edited September 2, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Hardkill]

12 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Most people don't perceive sex workers to be sluts. Where did you get this notion. They consider them hoes. There's a difference. Hoes get paid sluts don't. The hoes on the streets refer to themselves as hoes. When they talk about other hookers, they sometimes refer to them as hoes. It's their slang term, just like black people refer to themselves and their buddies as niggas.

The guys refer to the girls that sleep around with Tom Dick and Harry around town for nothing sluts. There's no shame in the game for hoes. They're proud of what they're doing; and believe it or not, the men respect them more. This is referring to hookers in the casinos, hotels or on the streets. As far as strippers. They are just dancing semi-nude or nude. No slut shaming there. And for porn stars, they are just porn stars, guys don't refer to them as sluts. In fact, their convention in Vegas is a huge hit. It's idiots that refer to these women as sluts. The sluts are the ones sleeping with different men on a regular basis with no commitment and are just throwing their cuchie around town for guys to use, if people wanna call women sluts. I personally don't, but if you wanna get technical. It's guys who are sleeping with these loose women who call them sluts or guys who can't get laid or guys who can't afford hookers or guys who just down right hate.

Women who call other women sluts don't count and are probably being secretly called sluts themselves. Women will call a girl that stole her boyfriend a slut, women will call a virgin a slut just because she's scantily dressed and guys are hitting on her, women don't count, its a competition and jealousy thing sometimes with them. Believe it or not, except for porn stars, most girls in the overall industry aren't having intercourse with strange men on a regular basis, they're doing other stuff yes, but not a lot are having sex. Why aren't the men considered pigs and dogs for patronizing these workers, if men could do it, they would in a heartbeat. Why are the females in porn considered sluts by some, what about the men. It's the double standard that kills me. Women can't be sluts on their own, they need willing participants. So what are we labelling these men, macho's the Don, players, if anything men are the sluts.

As far as relationships go, idk about their personal lives, for me personally, I'm the one that's weary about guys and their faithfulness, since being in the industry and seeing how many men cheat. I'm the one that think twice. I think for myself and don't get caught up in stigmas and people's ignorance. Men are the horny pigs and are easily swayed by tits and ass, so I'm the one who have to be picky with whom I let into my heart. I'm the one who has to watch out for the players and not getting used just for sex. Money is tangible, so women who use men for their money is nothing compared to a man using women for her precious body. We're the ones who have to worry in this department.

I still don't get why men are cool with women getting paid for sex but less okay generally with women having casually sex for free?

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

I still don't get why men are cool with women getting paid for sex but less okay generally with women having casually sex for free?

It's not so much being cool but respected more because it's a prized possession that should be reserved for a few not many and if you're just gonna give away your prized possession to many, promiscuously, you might as well get paid for it and that is in a category called prostitution, not slutty. Yes, they'd rather get it for free but you won't be respected as much. 

It's not so much that the coochie is the prize but more so what comes with that, a woman's presence, her aura, her femininity, what it represents, what she brings out in a man.

This is why so many women who lay up with "losers" get abused or cheated on because the men don't respect them. He'll take what he can get but if he was to ever get himself established and level up himself he would leave her in a heartbeat for another woman who he respects more and who didn't just settle for him when he was a "loser". They kind of secretly resent you for it.  Men like to feel like they are worthy and are of some other value to a woman other than just sex. He needs to feel needed, not taken care of or provided for. It's inherent. 

I'm not saying men are not worthy or have prized possessions, it's in a different way, their masculinity, their ability to lead and take care of the family. I won't get into all the dynamics here and I don't know it all but women and men are valuable to each other, just in different ways. 

[Butters]

On 9/2/2023 at 4:24 AM, Princess Arabia said:

I'm more repulsed by guys who want to sleep with a different girl every week just because he's horny. 

So basically you're talking about Leo and anyone who followed his how to get laid series, right? Or were you just spewing out some random frustrations? 

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Butters said:

So basically you're talking about Leo and anyone who followed his how to get laid series, right? Or were you just spewing out some random frustrations? 

Whoever the cap fits. Notice I said because he's horny and a different girl and wants to do that.

[Butters]

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Whoever the cap fits. Notice I said because he's horny and a different girl and wants to do that.

You're saying you're repulsed by the natural male instinct. Us males are programmed to wanna fuck strange.