Transferring door to door sales skills to dating

[Noahsteelers34]

I spent the last 3 months doing hardcore door to door sales as my college internship. Knocking doors 6 days a week, sometimes 10 hours a day, selling smarthomes for vivint 

We used extreme techniques including knocking the same door 20 times thru the week until someone answered. Knocking when it was pitch black, aswell as pitching people until they basically told you to leave. 

I talked to thousands of people. By the end of the summer I was an utter savage, and had absolutely no fear or hesitation to approach and pitch/ small talk anyone. By the end I was on fire, where in the last week I was the top rookie salesman in the office.  

There is so much transferable knowledge. you have to be very confident, social, lead, aswell as be very assumption and escalate. On top of this I saw how how I turned from a terrible salesman to a bad ass salesman within my months just through shear experience, repetition, and persistence  (knocked on 600 doors before getting a deal)

I returned back to college, yet still feel like I can’t approach women. It was easy in sales because I had permission and I was in Colorado where I didn’t care what anyone thought. 
 

 I feel if I could apply my sales skills to approaching It would be insane but I just feel stuck. 

My approach skills are insane, but it’s just a completely different context and situation. I feel it’s weird for me to approach on campus and that I’m not allowed to. 
 

I'm at the point of saying fuck what everyone on this campus thinks is me, and just approach whatever girl I want, even if I develop a reputation. 

Edited August 29, 2023 by Noahsteelers34

[Sugarcoat]

Maybe it’s not so much about the skills and knowledge but more that you broke through this barrier of fear within yourself that was the major success. And now trying to translate it to women it’s the same thing there

[flowboy]

@Noahsteelers34  I was a door-to-door salesman in a grey and distant past, I know how brutal it is. Great job!

It didn't translate to dating for me either, I was just as insecure with the occasional bout of ballsiness.

I'm a bit more wise now than 10 years ago.

If you want to get good with dating the same way you did with sales, then you're going to have to do it in more anonymous environments where you don't meet the same people again usually. Because it's quite a sociopathic path to success (hammer it out until people hate you or close), you can only make it work with a huge constant influx of new people.

You're not making any friends or building a reputation in the mean time if you do this on a college campus. Because you'll be known as the guy who ignores all other guys and hits on all the girls all the time. Guys and girls will learn to avoid you because of this imbalance.

I will suggest a slight modification: you use this hammering social energy to accomplish a more indirect goal: making cool shit happen with other people. Not going straight for the individual date, but instead throwing parties, organising gatherings, outings, whatever brings people together. And then you use this sociopathic persistence to get the best people to join (guys and girls).

Now you're a social leader (= attractive).

At those get-togethers, whatever form they may take, the girls who are interested in you will come talk to you and then you can play from there.

That's how to be a player without becoming a pariah.

Edited August 29, 2023 by flowboy

[Noahsteelers34]

@flowboy How about a strategy where I am social with everyone, aswell as approaching girls? Being more indirect when I approach "Hey I know this is random, I just wanted to come say hi and meet you", and then going for the date if I can tell she's into me, if not I dont push for it, but just say "i throw parties at my place, you should come. Bring a friend". 

We already throw lit parties at my crib, but my roommate is the organizer who invites everyone so I don't get laid from it. Its hard because we only throw these parties once a semester because we get the cops called on us, and it makes a mess out of our place. I would probably need something else I can invite people to. 

I need a strategy to meet all these guys and girls I will invite to these gatherings.

There are 40k students here, and hot girls everywhere and it feels like a waste if I don't meet them. Just meeting people in my classes or extracurriculars is not a good strategy for me either, because the volume isn't there. I simply lack the experience of flirting with girls and need more exposure.

I need a way to direct this relentless drive I have to approach and talk to shit tons of people, and use it in a way that I am just known as the social, extroverted guy, as opposed to it being weird.