Female Masturbation

[The Redeemer]

On 8/28/2023 at 1:57 AM, Something Funny said:

Npfap doesn't work. Literally, never saw someone who got any success from it. 

I disagree, based off of my own direct experience. I definitely notice an increase in energy levels.

[Something Funny]

35 minutes ago, The Redeemer said:

I disagree, based off of my own direct experience. I definitely notice an increase in energy levels.

Look, another bright one...

[Osaid]

On 8/29/2023 at 2:37 AM, Lila9 said:

Our sexual pleasure and orgasms are existing for the sake of 100% pleasure and healing, there is 0% reproductive value to the female orgasms, unlike men- their orgasms are conditional to creating babies.

It's as if nature encourages us and wants us to feel pleasure for the sake of it. Which is the essence of the feminine, being for the sake of being. Creating for the sake of creating. Having pleasure for the sake of having pleasure.

What makes masturbation so fun? Than I can dictate the rythm and reach peaks that I never reached by having sex with men (but they were close, not gonna lie).

But it's important to point that there are various types of masturbating with different intentions.

For example, I believe that it's healthy to masturbate when we are horny or as a form of healing or spiritual growth but it's not healthy to masturbate as a form of distraction. Sometimes I find myself seeking to masturbate in order to distract myself from difficult emotions but then I become consious to that and stop.

I also think that masturbation with vibrating sex toys harms the vulva so I don't use them and never recommend them.

I don't think it's actually a gender thing, men can deepen it to a similar degree, although yes your biology is different and "has more parts" and perhaps a different dynamic to it. Although, admittedly, it might be less common for men to pursue that type of thing, which might be where your assumption comes from. But I have achieved "full-body" orgasms and nipple orgasms and all of that. I can orgasm without even touching myself down there if I wanted. And I can relate to this sentiment of being able to dictate everything in masturbation, it's a more personal flavor for sure.

I also don't agree with this idea of zero reproductive value, I actually think all orgasms have zero reproductive value. It's just the instrument that's being used to access it which has reproductive value. The experience of orgasming itself isn't anything like that though. If you still want to argue reproduction, vaginas definitely have built in mechanisms to aid in reproduction just like any other reproductive organ. Otherwise, I'm interested to hear how you think that male orgasms have "reproduction" built into them, but I assure you it doesn't, it's just a phenomenon that occurs purely by itself, just like female orgasms.

[Raze]

On 8/28/2023 at 6:30 AM, Something Funny said:

@DefinitelyNotARobot I didn't say that not watching porn, or semen retention has no benefits.

I said that nofap doesn't work.

Am I misunderstanding? How can you do semen retention without nofap?

[Sugarcoat]

4 hours ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

That has been my personal experience too, but I don't think that abstaining from masturbation is equivalent to mental clarity. I think that a mentally clear person can still enjoy masturbation. People have fundamentally different relationships to their bodies, their needs, their sexuality, etc., so being in a clear state of mind will effect these people differently, but if I was just talking for myself I'd agree.

i immediately related to your comment before where you described your experience, so same. I dont really understand why though, ive been contemplating it quite a bit from time to time trying to understand so ill see where that goes

yea ofc people are different. 

 

Edited August 30, 2023 by Sugarcoat

[Osaid]

I think a lot of the confusion in this thread, and most threads about nofap, come from a failure to recognize that masturbation can physiologically affect people differently. There are conditions like POIS, and probably milder versions of it which afflict people. I don't think it is normal to feel bad after masturbating, and I think most people don't. This only seems to be a popular sentiment online, because online communities create an echo chamber effect which normalizes it or amplifies it beyond what would be seen when looking at society at large.

I am not counting any projected negative beliefs about masturbation as an affliction, although this is probably the more common case, where people will simply self-deprecate themselves because of some negative beliefs after orgasming, and then interpret this as "masturbation makes me feel bad!"

I think the genuine physiological affliction is rarer and amplified online. But, the latter more common case of projection is not uncommon at all, and is seen online and in real life, commonly through religious indoctrination or whatever else.

I had this exact contention with @Someone here before, and he ran a poll on the forum, and you might be surprised to find that the majority of people who voted felt completely fine after masturbating:
 

 

Edited August 30, 2023 by Osaid

[Something Funny]

@Raze nofap is a set of beliefs / movement / ideology. Semen retention is an action.

Not eating meat != being a vegan

Approaching a girl != being a pickup artist

Practicing semen retention or not watching porn != nofap

 

[Raze]

56 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Raze nofap is a set of beliefs / movement / ideology. Semen retention is an action.

Not eating meat != being a vegan

Approaching a girl != being a pickup artist

Practicing semen retention or not watching porn != nofap

 

If anything it’s the opposite. Nofap is just the action of not masturbating. Semen retention has a lot of ideological and even spiritual beliefs tied to it.

[Princess Arabia]

@Lila9thanks for your input, girl and Teal Swan's video was very informative. She trying to look all sexy and shit in all red. She pulled that shit off. I was feeling sexy and romantic watching that shit. Wish I had a partner watching it with me. Lol. But seriously, I got all her points and she made very good ones. 

[Something Funny]

@Raze lol, no. You can easily proof that that's wrong by the fact that "nofap" is a made up slang word which is used to describe an online movement.

[Jehovah increases]

On 28/08/2023 at 2:49 PM, Princess Arabia said:

Why are you shouting. Lol

Sorry, I had no idea that wrighting in capitals meant I was shouting. Nor did I know you could be restricted for 7 days from posting and be given warning points. Sometimes I accidentally hit the caps on while I am writing. Unintentional of course and I posted it. And if I have already written it out and it is long I can not be bothered rewriting it in lowercase. Now I know.

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Jehovah increases said:

Sorry, I had no idea that wrighting in capitals meant I was shouting. Nor did I know you could be restricted for 7 days from posting and be given warning points. Sometimes I accidentally hit the caps on while I am writing. Unintentional of course and I posted it. And if I have already written it out and it is long I can not be bothered rewriting it in lowercase. Now I know.

No apology needed, and sorry to hear about your jail sentence. Didn't even know it was against guidelines. I know about starting new topic, tho, no caps there. Funny how we can shout online without hearing a word lol. Guess that's how God can be here talking to us and we can't hear a word. God is like the Internet, shouting his ass away in caps throughout space and no one hears, only in silence, just like here. That's why our asses in jail. Anyway, thanks for serving my jail time before I did the same thing. You're my Guinea pig. Hope you found all my jokes funny.

 

Edited September 5, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Jehovah increases]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

No apology needed, and sorry to hear about your jail sentence. Didn't even know it was against guidelines. I now about starting new topic, tho, no caps there. Funny how we can shout online without hearing a word lol. Guess that's how God can be here talking to us and we can't hear a word. God is like the Internet, shouting his ass away in caps throughout space and no one hears, only in silence, just like here. That's why our asses in jail. Anyway, thanks for serving my jail time before I did the same thing. You're my Guinea pig. Hope you found all my jokes funny.

 

Same I had no idea either that it is part of the guidelines. I love your japeries don't ever stop. As for the Guinea pig anything for a Princess.

Edited September 5, 2023 by Jehovah increases

[Princess Arabia]

29 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

Same I had no idea either that it is part of the guidelines. I love your japeries don't ever stop. As for the Guinea pig anything for a Princes

❤️

[Naomi]

tbh, I always wondered this too because id listen to the hype about "no fap" but as a woman its definitely a whole different thing but no one talks about it haha i see it's still very taboo, like how dare a women explore themselves and feel sexual pleasure lol 

I guess too much of anything isn't good. i mean it's really answered itself in terms of chasing dopamine highs which is prob what semen retention goes into, actually idk cause i have no experience in that haha but this spiritual dudes podcast on yt kinda talks about it like that. but yeah i always wondered if i hold do i also get the same benefits? like glowly face, nil mood swings, you know actually i feel as though its because youre not chasing anything. you're not needing anything i feel like its a subconscious thing right, when you let go of your desires (in this case be it sex/marstabtion) and you're not always chasing a high of something or release so you can feel better. it kinda shows off in someone, like you can sense it sometimes. Although that's more for extreme cases of addiction to said dopamine high i guess not just your average person. 

 

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Naomi said:

tbh, I always wondered this too because id listen to the hype about "no fap" but as a woman its definitely a whole different thing but no one talks about it haha i see it's still very taboo, like how dare a women explore themselves and feel sexual pleasure lol 

I guess too much of anything isn't good. i mean it's really answered itself in terms of chasing dopamine highs which is prob what semen retention goes into, actually idk cause i have no experience in that haha but this spiritual dudes podcast on yt kinda talks about it like that. but yeah i always wondered if i hold do i also get the same benefits? like glowly face, nil mood swings, you know actually i feel as though its because youre not chasing anything. you're not needing anything i feel like its a subconscious thing right, when you let go of your desires (in this case be it sex/marstabtion) and you're not always chasing a high of something or release so you can feel better. it kinda shows off in someone, like you can sense it sometimes. Although that's more for extreme cases of addiction to said dopamine high i guess not just your average person. 

 

Thanks for your input and welcome to the Forum. It's taboo for other people, I talk about anything. Let me think...nope ...cant think of anything off limits...oh yeah, politics. I don't think I'm chasing a high when I do it. I just feel like it and I do it. I'm not a sex-addict so I don't know. You probably don't have to be a sex-addict to be addicted to masturbation, though. Don't know.

[Applegarden8]

On 8/28/2023 at 2:51 AM, Princess Arabia said:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and since there are way more males here than females, this might get tricky. I notice a lot of guys talking about no fap, which is the abstaining from masturbation. You know - no fap, fap, fap, fap sound. They say it promotes mental clarity to muscle growth, to increased testosterone levels, to higher energy levels and more. I don't think there are any scientific evidence to back these claims, but, either way:

My question is, does no fap for women affects women in anyway. Are there any benefits or side effects. Does it also help in clarity, mood swings or health. I don't know since I've never done it. I'm always masturbating as I have no sex life and I'm always horny. My work doesn't require me to have an orgasm and I can always fake it if I have to. I cannot come on the spot as it takes special positioning of my legs, and I don't need to do that anyway. I'm just curious as I have never gone more than a week, or at the most, two weeks without masturbating. I know, that's a long time for men but for women that's not too long. 

No hate speeches please, as this is a legitimate question, and if you can't handle it or are going to be rude, please don't respond as you know my tongue slips from time to time. Women and men can answer, but women encouraged. Women be brave, there's no shame here.

I believe generally bad for one reason, regardless of the gender.

If you do sex or masturbation thinking about your commited partner, that's great! Great to feel wanted and want somebody and it goes full circle and it's an enjoyable experience.

If you do hook up with multiple people and jerk off thinking about different people, then you will be more mentally and emotionally fragile and unstable, form my experience. If you do longer periods of no fap like a more than 2 weeks, your perception of the opposite sex will change. The natural triggers will not trigger as they would and you are able to think about other aspects of life more clearly, the impact of importance about what people think of you also reduces and there is no emotional investment and expectation how things should go from your crush or person you like if you do no fap.

I am not talking about whether you should, shouldn't or suggesting that you feel any way about it. This is just purely my observation. I think it's sad that everything is so sexualized for monetary gain and people are chasing some kind of illusions just to blow one off or get laid or maintain an abusive relationship (to not be lonely) although life may be about entirely something else. And then ANYWAY you are left alone and couldn't in fact run away from it, time to sit with yourself and address it.