Does God realization ever stop being terrifying?

[tlowedajuicemayne]

Thanks to DMT I can access God consciousness while smoking marijuana but when I drop my body and become infinite, it's terrifying to me. When I see how my mind is imagining others, I feel terrified. Does this ever stop being so damn scary? Thanks

[Thought Art]

I’ve definitely had experiences that weren’t terrifying but positive and like “oh yeah”. Then, others that were scary. So, idk.

[tlowedajuicemayne]

@Thought Art yeah I've also had a few of those "duuh" moments or "oh yeah" moments as well. I wonder if it's not so much about the realization and more about the method of accomplishing it? After all it's me. Why am I terrified of myself? I'm a loving being. 

Edited August 26, 2023 by tlowedajuicemayne

[Soul Flight]

Maybe there is a terror in realizing we are wrong about everything. We have to be deprogrammed. It is all an illusion.

Maybe we need to grieve for the illusions and let them go.

Maybe we are scared if we were wrong about our entire life and our past, maybe we are wrong about DMT and god realization and the current moment.

I believe there is a genesis story from some tribe which states in the beginning the awareness said "I am" but then it said "I am afraid" but then it said if "I am god, who am I afraid of? Why am I afraid?"

[Kalki Avatar]

@tlowedajuicemayne You need to purify your mind with meditation before going that deep with Psychedelics. Also be open minded, accept and be courageous. Have an adventure mindset. 

[Leo Gura]

Yes it stops being terrifying. But then you discover even deeper consciousness which becomes terrifying again.

You can get used to certain levels of awakening but not all possible awakenings.

[UnbornTao]

I would postulate that a genuine increase in consciousness is never scary. As a matter of fact, the more consciousness, the less fear. You'd become conscious of what something is which tends to reduce fear in relationship to it.

But I don't know. I'd say don't confuse altered states, especially psychedelic-induced, with direct consciousness.

After the trip, what are you conscious of?

Edited August 29, 2023 by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

47 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

I would postulate that a genuine increase in consciousness is never scary

Haha

Only if you never seriously increase consciousness.

If you ain't terrified you ain't increasing consciousness much.

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes it stops being terrifying. But then you discover even deeper consciousness which becomes terrifying again.

You can get used to certain levels of awakening but not all possible awakenings.

Can you give an example?

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Can you give an example?

Example: You can get used to 5-MeO-DMT consciousness, even very high doses. They will cease terrifying you. But then you do salvia or DPT and you will shit bricks.

5-MeO-DMT never terrifies me anymore. But other chemicals do.

Edited August 29, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Example: You can get used to 5-MeO-DMT consciousness, even very high doses. They will cease scarying you. But then you do salvia and you will shit bricks.

Can weed bring the same level of confidence as 5 meo DMT? I'm very sensitive to it but there's not the horrible 5 meo bodyload at all.

I have only experimented with very small joints

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

Can weed bring the same level of confidence as 5 meo DMT? I'm very sensitive to it but there's not the horrible 5 meo bodyload at all.

I have only experimented with very small joints

PSYCHEDELICS AFFECT PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY.

[Jannes]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

5-MeO-DMT never terrifies me anymore. But other chemicals do.

Do you still feel fear when it comes up? 

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Do you still feel fear when it comes up? 

No

[Jannes]

23 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No

Cool, how many trips did it take you to get there?

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Cool, how many trips did it take you to get there?

Not sure. I haven't been keeping track of my fear. Over 100.

[Chives99]

it does if you surrender, when surrender happens its like liquid peace permeating throughout your entire body

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura really DPT terrified you? In one of your Videos you said it was always positive for you. It just has some bad reputation because of one or two trip reports of where dpt went wrong. So do you speak from your experience? 

Me and my Friends tested dpt. It is not scary at all. It is just positive and sometimes very visual. 

What did you experienced on DPT that made you terrified? 

 

Edited August 29, 2023 by OBEler

[UnbornTao]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Haha

Only if you never seriously increase consciousness.

If you ain't terrified you ain't increasing consciousness much.

If you keep increasing consciousness, fear will subside, won't it? Maybe it's a matter of not having gone far eough.

The point is not to stop with the fear but to keep investigating.

Edited August 29, 2023 by UnbornTao

[Yimpa]

2 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

The point is not to stop with the fear but to keep investigating.

You’d probably be long gone and insanely conscious that the idea of “keep investigating”, self-inquiry, contemplation, etc. won’t even be a possibility.

Your entire identity is nowhere to be found at that point.