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Would female hookers be less psychologically damaged if prostitution was legalized?

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3 hours ago, Tudo said:

OK. I understand, already happened any cases of men getting obsessed over you? That you had to block on social media for example?

No, these men don't have my social media. I separate the two. They might have had my ph#, but no problems. I tell you, I have more problems out of reg guys than them, and also that is very rare. The most problems I've ever had out of a male was with my ex-husband and I wasn't even doing this stuff yet,.only stripping which I stopped before we got married.  Go figure, but that was a long time ago. 


 

 

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5 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Pornography is a little but different. Personally, I wouldn't do porn. Nobody wants to watch sexless porn, unless it's fetishes like ball busting. Seriously, look it up on pornhub. There's such a thing. Guys getting their balls kicked and loving it. Pays well too. They are the ones psychologically damaged, IMO. Some people will say that's taking advantage of but I beg to differ.

So you are not those miserable progressives that just rationalise all fetishes by saying 'As long as they get pleasure from it Is OK'. Thank God someone within the industry with some integrity.  

I guess if you've heard of ball busting you must have heard of Findom. I´ve watched some videos of guys paying 300$ in person to a girl, this girl kicking their balls, and then saying good bye. Talk about psychology damaged. 

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7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Women in porn are psychologically damaged to begin with. No healthy woman would go into porn.

Really? What do you think of the modern phenomenon of women making a living off of OnlyFans, because they're being 'expressive'? Is it all psychological damage?

 


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1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

So you are not those miserable progressives that just rationalise all fetishes by saying 'As long as they get pleasure from it Is OK'. Thank God someone within the industry with some integrity.  

I guess if you've heard of ball busting you must have heard of Findom. I´ve watched some videos of guys paying 300$ in person to a girl, this girl kicking their balls, and then saying good bye. Talk about psychology damaged. 

Yes I've heard of Findom. I'm not really into all that stuff but the ball busting thing, was some guy who I thought was just gonna be a regular client who told me afterwards he's into that stuff. He was from out of state and a retired army vet. He just wanted me to kick him in his balls, I mean I couldn't kick hard enough. It was painful for me to do, not physically but mentally but he kept saying harder and he liked it with my boots on. He had me for 3nights/$1,000 a night including dinner and drinks and I only interacted with him for about an hr each time doing the session. We walked and talked and drank and do what tourists did and just did regular folks stuff for the 3days and he let me do whatever I wanted till we met up in the evening each day. He's the one that told me to watch it on pornhub and try to do what those women did.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't enjoy doing that but for that kinda doe why not, and they're not doing anything sexual to you, not even touch your breast. He would just jerk off at the end of the 3days on the morning before his flight back home and that's the only time he came. Thats the only person I ever did that with, so it's not a regular occurrence. I probably would have psychological damage from just doing that alone on a regular. I normally do other sexual stuff, just not intercourse and if they want that, i'll just quote some ridiculous price that they don't even bother trying. I once had a guy gave me $2,400 just to lick my butt. Another guy gave me $6,000 $500 at a time for how many hours that was to just act like his girlfriend while sitting in the room naked together and talked and laughed and when he was done we laid in the bed and he just jerked off while just touching me a little bit. He was from California and flew in for a convention.

I'm just saying all this to show people it's not all pumping and humping, there are lots of other stuff in this field. I'm sure if I was the type to work the streets it would be a different story and I couldn't do it if that's all it entailed. I'm kinda showing how some women can do this without the psychological stuff that goes on with this. It's just harder to find regular guys who understands the work and that it's not personal who will date you while doing this stuff, so I don't even bother, unless I was going to get married. It does have it's problems at times and not all the time I get those extreme cases, or make that kind of money at one time and sometimes i go for weeks without working or days. but for the most part it's just out-of-town guys who come down to gamble and have a good time.

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I probably would have psychological damage from just doing that alone on a regular.

 

 

 

Ok, that's interesting that you say that. So subconsciously you intuit that even though they get pleasure out of it is not the best thing to do? Subconsciously you feel you are hurting him or what?

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Yes I've heard of Findom. I'm not really into all that stuff 

So you think there are women that are actually into it/enjoy it? Sometimes I wonder, no girl can do that for a living on a daily basis if she doesn't get a sadistic kick out of it, but then I also sometimes like to think, no, there's no way some people are that fucked up and get enjoyment from humiliating and taking money from people. So after a lot of time into that fetish I still not sure how much of it is fantasy (men asking to be humiliated and women just creating a role to fullfill that fantasy and making money in return) and how much is real (psychopathic women actually getting off in a fucked up way by humiliating weak or vulnerable simp men).

And of course, by getting off I don't mean sexually but... in an emotionally way . Like when you have trauma inside and you just want to pay your internal pay/rage with someone else. 

Although there must be something of reality into it. Like, how the fuck some women are Dominatrix for years if they don't get a kick out of it? How can someone make their entire living just totally acting? Although thats literally what a prostitute says on a video that Leo posted of Las Vegas. That sex workers become the greatest actors and fake everything. I wonder if behind every apparent sadistic cruel Dominatrix is an insecure or normal person like anyone else LoL.

 

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Girls who go into porn or stripping usually have a lot of mental issues from bad family, abuse, no father, etc. They are not normal girls. And protistutes have even worse backgrounds.

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25 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

 

Ok, that's interesting that you say that. So subconsciously you intuit that even though they get pleasure out of it is not the best thing to do? Subconsciously you feel you are hurting him or what?

So you think there are women that are actually into it/enjoy it? Sometimes I wonder, no girl can do that for a living on a daily basis if she doesn't get a sadistic kick out of it, but then I also sometimes like to think, no, there's no way some people are that fucked up and get enjoyment from humiliating and taking money from people. So after a lot of time into that fetish I still not sure how much of it is fantasy (men asking to be humiliated and women just creating a role to fullfill that fantasy and making money in return) and how much is real (psychopathic women actually getting off in a fucked up way by humiliating weak or vulnerable simp men).

And of course, by getting off I don't mean sexually but... in an emotionally way . Like when you have trauma inside and you just want to pay your internal pay/rage with someone else. 

Although there must be something of reality into it. Like, how the fuck some women are Dominatrix for years if they don't get a kick out of it? How can someone make their entire living just totally acting? Although thats literally what a prostitute says on a video that Leo posted of Las Vegas. That sex workers become the greatest actors and fake everything. I wonder if behind every apparent sadistic cruel Dominatrix is an insecure or normal person like anyone else LoL.

 

I wasn't really being that serious about the psychological damage from kicking men in the balls that love it. It's just I don't like hurting people, even though they enjoy it and you're really not hurting them, but sometimes the mind can interpret things differently if you're not wired a certain way, It's subconscious. Idk

For all the other stuff you're saying, there are professional actors who act in movies their whole lives. This isn't any different. Some dominatrixes do enjoy what they do and are professionals at it. I'm not one, even though I've been paid to do mild stuff in the past like have them go on their knees and bark like a dog and say, yes mistress. Lol. I met my old lawyer like that. I advertised myself and he answered the ad and I used his services for a traffic violation but he was into that stuff. These men aren't weak simp men, they are professionals who are strong on their jobs they for some reason get off on this kind if stuff. I'm trying to show the typical misconceptions in this work that's why I'm so open. Yes, there are different scenarios but it doesn't have to be that way if you're careful and chose your clientel carefully and don't work the streets.

Trauma is everywhere so don't think it's all about trauma. Some girls just do it because they can and the market is good. If anything its the men with the trauma and we provide the short-term relief, not interpreting that as good or bad, it just is. I can think of other worse ways people release their traumas. 

Please don't interpret these dominatrixes as being cruel and stuff, these men asks for these things. They are being sexually gratified. Some of these men don't want mean women, just dominant, and they consider them loving. It's kind of twisted but its mutual. Abd stop saying how we take their money, they search us out and give it willingly. Yes, you have corruption and girls who steal but I'm not talking about those circumstances. You have to understand it's a business and you don't have to personally enjoy it just be good at what you do. Guys have a very hard time with this because they don't understand this. Every situation is different, every girl and client. I'm only speaking for me and the other girls I know and my experiences. It can desensitize you a bit if you're not careful but that also comes with it's benefits. Stop saying sex workers fake everything because it's not about sexual enjoyment for them and most clients understand this. They just want you to show them a good time while you're with them and that's it. They don't care if you're faking or not.

 


 

 

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1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Girls who go into porn or stripping usually have a lot of mental issues from bad family, abuse, no father, etc. They are not normal girls.

Hush. You go to strip clubs. It's not normal to pick up guys off the street and have sex with them for no reason.


 

 

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8 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I wasn't really being that serious about the psychological damage from kicking men in the balls that love it. It's just I don't like hurting people, even though they enjoy it and you're really not hurting them, but sometimes the mind can interpret things differently if you're not wired a certain way, It's subconscious. Idk

For all the other stuff you're saying, there are professional actors who act in movies their whole lives. This isn't any different. Some dominatrixes do enjoy what they do and are professionals at it. I'm not one, even though I've been paid to do mild stuff in the past like have them go on their knees and bark like a dog and say, yes mistress. Lol. I met my old lawyer like that. I advertised myself and he answered the ad and I used his services for a traffic violation but he was into that stuff. These men aren't weak simp men, they are professionals who are strong on their jobs they for some reason get off on this kind if stuff. I'm trying to show the typical misconceptions in this work that's why I'm so open. Yes, there are different scenarios but it doesn't have to be that way if you're careful and chose your clientel carefully and don't work the streets.

Trauma is everywhere so don't think it's all about trauma. Some girls just do it because they can and the market is good. If anything its the men with the trauma and we provide the short-term relief, not interpreting that as good or bad, it just is. I can think of other worse ways people release their traumas. 

Please don't interpret these dominatrixes as being cruel and stuff, these men asks for these things. They are being sexually gratified. Some of these men don't want mean women, just dominant, and they consider them loving. It's kind of twisted but its mutual. Abd stop saying how we take their money, they search us out and give it willingly. Yes, you have corruption and girls who steal but I'm not talking about those circumstances. You have to understand it's a business and you don't have to personally enjoy it just be good at what you do. Guys have a very hard time with this because they don't understand this. Every situation is different, every girl and client. I'm only speaking for me and the other girls I know and my experiences. It can desensitize you a bit if you're not careful but that also comes with it's benefits. Stop saying sex workers fake everything because it's not about sexual enjoyment for them and most clients understand this. They just want you to show them a good time while you're with them and that's it. They don't care if you're faking or not.

 

Is funny that you say, I´ve spent +4K in Findom for the past 3-4 years, I was a virgin, absolutely no self-confidence in my attractiveness, and put women on a pedestal. Findom was THE GOLD rush because I got all that my mind thought it was true. That I was shit and she was gold. And I know lots of guys in the same. I talked to a lot domes and findommes. They use this fucked up rationalisations such as that the men have tons of money and are successful but want to experience submission and thats what they do it. Holy fucking shit how fucking far they are from the reality.

No, the guy that does findom is a guy that is at the level of brokenness inside that is more close to suicide than other thing. 

I can guarantee you a men that can pull girls do not pay for the attention of a girl. How fucking dare are you give me lectures about femdom and findom. Lmao. I can show you my PayPal history. This girls just can't stomach the fact that are making money of men that are broken inside.

There are domes that literally say 'You are paying me tonight because you are a loser and can't get laid'. THEY EXACTLY fucking now who their 'clients' (or better said, victims, or better said, PREY) are.

Girs that do findom are one of the human beings with lowers integrity and heart on the fucking planet. 

If I was a guy and I would have an only fans, I would not drain the bank account of an insecure girl that maybe their physical attractiveness is not good. But maybe those standards are too high for you giving the quality of the response you have given me. 

I find funny reading your reply because you are so fucking far from the reality. Is unfathomable. Is so fucking unfair the indescribable amount of pain I´ve felt in that shit and you talking like is nothing. No, this crap is the worst pain and suffering I´ve experience in my whole life. No, is not fucking fair that you show those girls as being angels. They are fucking demons. 

But of course, you are in the game. Your mind does not want to hear the truth. Of course not. 

But anyways this shouldn't even be directed towards you. In the same way I say girls who do Findom or hard-related Femdom stuff, are one of the worst type of humans in this planet, I also say hookers saved my life.

When I realized that I could pay to feel loved and touched and treated in a good way, I realized... why then I have been paying to be treated with constant psychological violence and basically like a shit? 

Of course, I guess because I didn't knew any better lmao. 

And because the girls that are into femdom-findom as a lifestyle are so fucking bad humans that will motivate-try to maintain that their clients keep being insecure males that don't get laid ever or feel loved. The more damaged and broken you are, the more money they will do off you. It works in a twisted way.

Having survived that world it gives you humility at how bad, cruel and crude humans can get. 

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@Princess Arabia Being an escort is not prostitution. Prostitution is when you have sex for money.

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18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Princess Arabia Being an escort is not prostitution. Prostitution is when you have sex for money.

What does mean be a escort in the USA?

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30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Princess Arabia Being an escort is not prostitution. Prostitution is when you have sex for money.

So, even if prostitution was made safe like porn is, why would it still worsen a woman's psyche if she already has been psychological problems to begin with that had nothing to do with sex work she's been doing?

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28 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Is funny that you say, I´ve spent +4K in Findom for the past 3-4 years, I was a virgin, absolutely no self-confidence in my attractiveness, and put women on a pedestal. Findom was THE GOLD rush because I got all that my mind thought it was true. That I was shit and she was gold. And I know lots of guys in the same. I talked to a lot domes and findommes. They use this fucked up rationalisations such as that the men have tons of money and are successful but want to experience submission and thats what they do it. Holy fucking shit how fucking far they are from the reality.

No, the guy that does findom is a guy that is at the level of brokenness inside that is more close to suicide than other thing. 

I can guarantee you a men that can pull girls do not pay for the attention of a girl. How fucking dare are you give me lectures about femdom and findom. Lmao. I can show you my PayPal history. This girls just can't stomach the fact that are making money of men that are broken inside.

There are domes that literally say 'You are paying me tonight because you are a loser and can't get laid'. THEY EXACTLY fucking now who their 'clients' (or better said, victims, or better said, PREY) are.

Girs that do findom are one of the human beings with lowers integrity and heart on the fucking planet. 

If I was a guy and I would have an only fans, I would not drain the bank account of an insecure girl that maybe their physical attractiveness is not good. But maybe those standards are too high for you giving the quality of the response you have given me. 

I find funny reading your reply because you are so fucking far from the reality. Is unfathomable. Is so fucking unfair the indescribable amount of pain I´ve felt in that shit and you talking like is nothing. No, this crap is the worst pain and suffering I´ve experience in my whole life. No, is not fucking fair that you show those girls as being angels. They are fucking demons. 

But of course, you are in the game. Your mind does not want to hear the truth. Of course not. 

But anyways this shouldn't even be directed towards you. In the same way I say girls who do Findom or hard-related Femdom stuff, are one of the worst type of humans in this planet, I also say hookers saved my life.

When I realized that I could pay to feel loved and touched and treated in a good way, I realized... why then I have been paying to be treated with constant psychological violence and basically like a shit? 

Of course, I guess because I didn't knew any better lmao. 

And because the girls that are into femdom-findom as a lifestyle are so fucking bad humans that will motivate-try to maintain that their clients keep being insecure males that don't get laid ever or feel loved. The more damaged and broken you are, the more money they will do off you. It works in a twisted way.

Having survived that world it gives you humility at how bad, cruel and crude humans can get. 

You sound angry. Listen. People are into different shit and i'm here to provide a service. You asked me about my job and I was transparent with you. Don't think anything you can say to me will offend me. Until you have been in my shoes, you will never understand, Some guys are not broken, they just enjoy having a good time and that is what I provide. Don't vent to me if you can't find a woman open enough to satisfy your craving. You know about fen dom more than I do and that's a whole different category. I am being open in discussing my field knowing I'm vulnerable to backlash like you're doing, but it doesn't phase me. I've come to grips with myself and understand who I am so no amount of shit you give me will make any difference to me so save it.

I don't really care what people have to say about anything anymore because I've realized that so many of you are projecting your insecurities unto the world without going within to recognize this. I AM what I say I AM. I AM the operant power. I call the shots in my world. I'm not hard up for anything nor do I look to anyone to complete me. I know I'm Source and I live my life like that. Yes, I do forget sometimes, but it doesn't matter. Nothing you can say or do will ever stray me away from that knowing. So save the little boyish attitude and know that this is just an experience. Stop being selfish and learn to love your fucking self. All of it. This is fucking you. Who gives a shit about man made terms. Fen dom fen whatever, fuck all that shit. Learn to love and all this won't matter in the long run because you are Source energy. Learn to embody that shit. Why do you think I don't give a fuck what i reveal, it doesn't matter to me. It's a fucking role I'm playing. Its not who I am, Wake the fuck up an know who you fucking are. All this 3d shit doesnt matter. Its all just a fucking play. I am what I say I am. You're what I say you are. You just a fucking second fiddle in my fucking world. Nothing can hurt me. Nothing. I'm already dead. So you and your little selfish fucking little needs that you so crave can take that shit somewhere else. I need nothing. Only to feel my heart beat and know I AM what I say I AM. Fuck you and your little wimp ass scared fucking ego. I don't give a shit. Go play with your fucking cock and go jerk off some fucking place. Don't get me fucking started mutherfucker cause you're the wimp ass that needs some one to fullful your needs. I'm already whole and one with eternity and I couldn't care less what you think about me or other girls putting their life on the line to fulfill your fucking sexual needs. Go fuck your self 


 

 

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24 minutes ago, Tudo said:

What does mean be a escort in the USA?

Same thing as pick up only thing you're not being used, for men's pleasure you're getting paid to provide a service


 

 

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25 minutes ago, nhoktinvt said:

companion for lonely people

Everybody feels lonely at different times in their life. Doesn't mean you need an escort to fulfill that need. Some guys just enjoy that while some prefer video games 


 

 

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well i think too much loneliness can lead to depression or some other toxic shit (rape, molestation) soo yea.

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3 minutes ago, nhoktinvt said:

well i think too much loneliness can lead to depression or some other toxic shit (rape, molestation) soo yea.

Stop that. Loneliness doesn't lead to rape. You have to understand that people recognize the options available to them and they are always ready to exercise that. Lonely people go out looking for companionship, not to go rape. Rape is not about loneliness or sex its about power.


 

 

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9 minutes ago, nhoktinvt said:

well i think too much loneliness can lead to depression or some other toxic shit (rape, molestation) soo yea.

As a lonewolf myself, not really, I enjoy being alone. Idk if you’re seen the people who lives by their own in the forest, they look alright.

But I can also see your point, depending how the person mentally is, it could go through a rabbit hole. 

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