China's Hitler Youth

[Scholar]

 

I feel like a lot of people are utterly clueless to the degree of insanity that is currently transpiring in China. Xi Jinping has basically positioned himself to be the new Mao and is currently indoctrinating an entire generation of children to hate the west and to accept Xi Jinping thought, a book Xi wrote that basically everyone in China is forced to read.

[Danioover9000]

@Scholar

On 2023-08-23 at 2:52 PM, Scholar said:

 

I feel like a lot of people are utterly clueless to the degree of insanity that is currently transpiring in China. Xi Jinping has basically positioned himself to be the new Mao and is currently indoctrinating an entire generation of children to hate the west and to accept Xi Jinping thought, a book Xi wrote that basically everyone in China is forced to read.

   I think the reason why the western countries, USA, UK and others, are not talking about this is because that argument can be mirrored back at that culture and country and politician, because they too are into this indoctrination, grooming, and gas lighting of western values and ideals into the brains of the younger generation. Plus, since China is shaping up to be the next super power, most politicians and business owners don't want to offend the Chinese and the CCP, even if they are in the moral right to relatively speaking.

[Scholar]

2 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Scholar

   I think the reason why the western countries, USA, UK and others, are not talking about this is because that argument can be mirrored back at that culture and country and politician, because they too are into this indoctrination, grooming, and gas lighting of western values and ideals into the brains of the younger generation. Plus, since China is shaping up to be the next super power, most politicians and business owners don't want to offend the Chinese and the CCP, even if they are in the moral right to relatively speaking.

There is a sense of nationalism in every country, but China is basically, for no good reason other than because the CCP wants to use this as a political tool, sowing hatred amongst the entire population for human beings of other nations. China is actually on a very bad trajectory at the moment, and regressing starkly from where it was heading even a decade ago, so it is not actually certain whether or not China will be able to sustain itself as a powerful entity in the long term, especially with regional competitors like India. Although China does have the potential, the corruption is so deep that it might take decades just to heal the damage that was done over the past few years.

[Jodistrict]

This guy use to live in China and had a travel log, but now he has turned into an anti China shill to get clicks.  I don't believe any of it.   America has over 800 military bases in 70 countries and China has about 3.  The Chinese have been relatively peaceful compared to the West and focus on being an influence in their own region.

Edited August 25, 2023 by Jodistrict

[Israfil]

I think that the public perception of the Chinese about foreigners is more important than a random USAer point of view.

[Scholar]

4 hours ago, Israfil said:

I think that the public perception of the Chinese about foreigners is more important than a random USAer point of view.

This is from 5 years ago. The relationship to the US has been degrading over the course of Trumps presidency, and has only in the past years, especially during covid, taken on new heights of animosity. Most chinese people even today view especially white foreigners as a kind of sign of higher wisdom and authority, this is why the White Monkey jobs are a thing.

Now, how chinese people relate to people from the US will depend on the generation, the location and so forth. But this is not really related to the topic above, which is specifically Xi indocrinating the youngest generation of chinese children into a very specific, anti-US ideology.

 

This is why the thread is called "China's Hitler Youth", because we know that dictators target specifically the youngest generation to be able to take over the entire country in a sort of cult of personality autocracy.

[Scholar]

@Israfil

 

Here you have a video from 4 years ago from the same person when they still lived in China. That was kind of when relations between the China and US started degrading, but like I said above, it has degraded significantly over the course of Covid. That does not mean everyone hates americans, it simply means the very nationalistic, politically activated portion of the population which basically will follow everything the CCP says has a growing hatred towards americans and the japanese.

Edited August 25, 2023 by Scholar

[Nilsi]

21 hours ago, Scholar said:

There is a sense of nationalism in every country, but China is basically, for no good reason other than because the CCP wants to use this as a political tool, sowing hatred amongst the entire population for human beings of other nations. China is actually on a very bad trajectory at the moment, and regressing starkly from where it was heading even a decade ago, so it is not actually certain whether or not China will be able to sustain itself as a powerful entity in the long term, especially with regional competitors like India. Although China does have the potential, the corruption is so deep that it might take decades just to heal the damage that was done over the past few years.

China is certainly quite neurotic and cynical, but they are just playing to their strengths - I don’t see anymore corruption in China than elsewhere.

They have a clear strategy (create an army of highly trained and specialized people, and make sure that foreign ideals don’t corrupt their minds) and carry it out to it’s fullest — good for them!

[Scholar]

41 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

China is certainly quite neurotic and cynical, but they are just playing to their strengths - I don’t see anymore corruption in China than elsewhere.

They have a clear strategy (create an army of highly trained and specialized people, and make sure that foreign ideals don’t corrupt their minds) and carry it out to it’s fullest — good for them!

China is not strategic at all, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Edited August 26, 2023 by Scholar

[Nilsi]

1 hour ago, Scholar said:

China is not strategic at all, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Meaning?

[Leo Gura]

Yes, China has some toxic nationalism brewing over the Taiwan issue.

[Jodistrict]

1 hour ago, Scholar said:

China is not strategic at all, it's all smoke and mirrors.

With the Belt and Road Initiative, China is building a global infrastructure by investing in more than 150 countries.  Examples include ports, road, bridges, dams, electric stations, and railroad tunnels.  

[ValiantSalvatore]

Then he's also memed as a kindergarden education president. It's sorta amazing. 

[Leo Gura]

China is super strategic. More than the US.

[Scholar]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

China is super strategic. More than the US.

Anyone who has followed chinese politics knows that china is not at all strategic but completely reactionary, so I would suggest reading up at least on the basics of the types of choices the CCP has made over the past decades.

You have to also consider the shere amount of corruption which takes place in China, which we have seen over and over causing idiocy on a scale unimaginable for western societies. In China, appearance is everything. China actively lies about it's economic state to uphold and investor-friendly image.

https://www.voanews.com/a/satellites-shed-light-on-dictators-lies-about-economic-growth/6813119.html

https://thediplomat.com/2019/03/chinas-reputation-for-long-range-planning-is-wildly-exaggerated/

https://tfipost.com/2020/10/how-one-misunderstanding-back-in-1972-led-to-the-myth-of-chinese-foresight-and-excellent-planning-skills/

 

It's not surprising that this delusional view of China is so prevelant among people in the west, considering China has the greatest propaganda apparatus in the world. But I am still disappointed when I see people fall for it, who should know better, lol. For you lazy people, I recommend just watching something like The China Show:

https://www.youtube.com/@TheChinaShow

While they do have a bias, they are accurate enough and will give you a good sense and picture of how China works and in what state it currently is.

 

 

Edited August 26, 2023 by Scholar

[Nilsi]

2 minutes ago, Scholar said:

For you lazy people, I recommend just watching something like The China Show:

https://www.youtube.com/@TheChinaShow

Is this supposed to be a joke?

I remember this show from the early Covid days. The host was some toxic manosphere loser, bitching and moaning about how he didn’t get any pussy in his time living in China, because of racism and propaganda.

[Scholar]

4 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Is this supposed to be a joke?

I remember this show from the early Covid days. The host was some toxic manosphere loser, bitching and moaning about how he didn’t get any pussy in his time living in China, because of racism and propaganda.

The guy has a chinese wife.

[Scholar]

Here is another good article for the lazies:

https://inkstickmedia.com/the-myth-of-chinese-strategic-genius/

 

Also, just to show you how their diplomats tick:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-chinas-wolf-warrior-diplomats-use-and-abuse-twitter/

https://www.wired.com/story/chinas-nationalistic-wolf-warriors-blast-foes-twitter/

Edited August 26, 2023 by Scholar

[Scholar]

2 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

With the Belt and Road Initiative, China is building a global infrastructure by investing in more than 150 countries.  Examples include ports, road, bridges, dams, electric stations, and railroad tunnels.  

The Belt and Road Initiative isn't doing as well as you think. And you really need to look at China's foreign policy, there is a reason why South East Asian countries have China on the top of their list of most hated countries.

https://thediplomat.com/2022/06/what-china-gets-wrong-about-southeast-asia/

I am obviously not saying everything China does is stupid and wrong, but the way the CCP currently works it is literally throwing the potential of the chinese people out the window, to a far, far greater degree than something like the US.

 

China has incredible strategic potential, but the current regime and political environment is literally rotting the country from the core.

Edited August 26, 2023 by Scholar

[Jodistrict]

China is building infrastructure and relationships with African countries, which is going to be of strategic importance to access to resources, such as rare earth elements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative