Covid 2.0 is coming

[Recursoinominado]

1 minute ago, D2sage said:

 

Holy shit...

Denialism is strong in you.

[hoodrow trillson]

1 minute ago, Recursoinominado said:

You see, I am smarter than any graph.  So this doesn't apply to me, sheeple.

[D2sage]

@hoodrow trillsonIts impressive how you have never read any scientific data and yet claim to know something. Or do they spread knowledge from manga and anime? 

[hoodrow trillson]

2 minutes ago, D2sage said:

@hoodrow trillsonIts impressive how you have never read any scientific data and yet claim to know something. Or do they spread knowledge from manga and anime? 

yeah they do

[D2sage]

@hoodrow trillson https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/20221007-guidance-mrna-covid19-vaccines-analysis.pdf?utm_source=floridahealth.gov&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsroom&utm_content=article&url_trace_7f2r5y6=https://www.floridahealth.gov/newsroom/2022/10/20220512-guidance-mrna-covid19-vaccine.pr.html

Here is an example: 

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This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination.

South African doctor who discovered Omicron variant SLAMS pressure from countries to make the virus sound worse than it actually is.

You watch to much Television. No wonder your brain is rotten.

Edited September 1, 2023 by D2sage

[D2sage]

@Recursoinominado @hoodrow trillson

[zurew]

@D2sage Your own linked "papers" debunks themselves . Good job, Im not surprised you didn't read them yourself ? :

the analysis link in your 1. link:

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Risk for both all-cause and
cardiac-related deaths was substantially higher 28 days following COVID-19 infection. The risk associated
with mRNA vaccination should be weighed against the risk associated with COVID-19 infection.

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These data are preliminary, based on surveillance data, and should be interpreted with caution. The
results have several limitations

2. link:

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This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

This second link don't even talk about myocarditis or cardiac problems. Also this is just a preprint far from being a study, let alone being a peer-reviewed one.

Regarding your 3. link . Lmao,this is not just not a study, but this is just an exceptionally dogshit article that has 0 references for their main claims.

 

Regarding your 4. link. This is another dogshit article that has 0 references for their claim. But even if I take their claim for granted, that still doesnt establish what you want. This would only establish that there was a women who got hospitalized after getting the vaxx (no causal link demonstrated in the article btw, just making the claim, without any evidence.) - but even taken for granted - this is not a very strong case , when your original goal was to establish how the effects of the pfizer vaccine is much worse than the effects of  covid19 .

5. link. Good job again, this is just an old article, that only talks about pfizer data being released, but doesnt establish your original point about myocarditis or cardiac problems.

6. link. Good job again, your own link debunked you :

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Therefore, the long-term impact of BNT162b2 vaccine seems safe.

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Over the past year, various studies supplied convincing data supporting vaccinations' efficiency not only be reducing mortality rate but also in lessening in illness severity, hospital admissions resulting with overall improved outcome and prognosis.These results demonstrate historic scientific medical achievement. Opposed to that magnitude success, a parallel dramatic phenomenon of the fake news is spread over societies and countries. Content analysis determined that fake news could be divided into Health- and non-health-related types such as religious beliefs, politics, economy, prevention of the infection, the origin of the disease, conspiracy theories etc. World Health Organization's Director-General declared the global ‘over-abundance’ of Covid-19 information an ‘infodemic’.

 

Tldr: your own links debunked you ; most of your links don't even talk about cardiac problems or myocarditis, therefore the overall case you presented is not just weak, but it was counter-productive for you, because most of them literally went against your conclusion and narrative.

 

[zurew]

@D2sage Next time actually try to do research and dont just read the titles that seemingly agree with you.

This looks extremely bad for you. You grabbed for everything you could, without properly reading or conceptualizing anything.

[D2sage]

@zurew @zurew Seems like you cant understand.

The links proves that the vaccine has caused many health issues. The point was that the vaccine is not 100% legit.

It proves that Pfizer are slimy cockroaches. 

This is a Norwegian study -- https://www.fhi.no/nyheter/2022/menstruasjonsforstyrrelser-12-15-ar/ It says: Increased incidence of menstrual disorders after corona vaccination in girls aged 12-15

You can find much more here  ---> https://phmpt.org/

Edited September 1, 2023 by D2sage

[zurew]

5 minutes ago, D2sage said:

The links proves that the vaccine has caused many health issues. The point was that the vaccine is not 100% legit.

????

Who claimed here that the vaccine doesn't have any side effect?? As I told you, you need to compare the effects of covid19 with the pfizer vaccine. Thats how you get a good picture about how bad or good it is.

Edited September 1, 2023 by zurew

[D2sage]

@zurew

I can buy that you don't trust any conspiracy theorist. But when a countries public health agency post the harm you must think.

 

49 minutes ago, zurew said:

You need to compare the effects of covid19 with the pfizer vaccine.

I had a positive covid test.

The effects was a headache and some mild pain in my shoulders, which went away after 1 paracetamol. This was a 3 day phase and then everything was normal.

That's nothing compared with all the effects the vaccine can cause. I take covid anytime instead of a vaccine.

The funny thing is how idiots can shrug this off, but at the same time think that all the hysteria vaccination against a harmless virus (for young people) was completely justified. Even that the vaccination would reduce the spread of infection was a lie.

Given that the people took gene therapy for a disease that people thought would kill them, but they already found out in 2021 that it's about 0.001-1% of the population depending on your age and history of the disease. so that we have a 3-4% increase is very serious considering that they all took something they had too little information about. Then also that pfizer, which was the largest company in this, claimed that their gene therapy stops the spread and hospital visits when it turned out both were lies.

Here are the ones who scream the most and want to force everyone to wear a mouth-diaper and get vaxxed.

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by D2sage

[D2sage]

57 minutes ago, zurew said:

This looks extremely bad for you. You grabbed for everything you could, without properly reading or conceptualizing anything.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-022-02129-5#Sec3

Here is a better one.

[Recursoinominado]

1 hour ago, zurew said:

@D2sage Your own linked "papers" debunks themselves . Good job, Im not surprised you didn't read them yourself ? :

the analysis link in your 1. link:

2. link:

This second link don't even talk about myocarditis or cardiac problems. Also this is just a preprint far from being a study, let alone being a peer-reviewed one.

Regarding your 3. link . Lmao,this is not just not a study, but this is just an exceptionally dogshit article that has 0 references for their main claims.

 

Regarding your 4. link. This is another dogshit article that has 0 references for their claim. But even if I take their claim for granted, that still doesnt establish what you want. This would only establish that there was a women who got hospitalized after getting the vaxx (no causal link demonstrated in the article btw, just making the claim, without any evidence.) - but even taken for granted - this is not a very strong case , when your original goal was to establish how the effects of the pfizer vaccine is much worse than the effects of  covid19 .

5. link. Good job again, this is just an old article, that only talks about pfizer data being released, but doesnt establish your original point about myocarditis or cardiac problems.

6. link. Good job again, your own link debunked you :

 

Tldr: your own links debunked you ; most of your links don't even talk about cardiac problems or myocarditis, therefore the overall case you presented is not just weak, but it was counter-productive for you, because most of them literally went against your conclusion and narrative.

 

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[D2sage]

@zurew

Here is a better study. From April 25 2023.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-022-02129-5#Sec3

Among the 35 cases of the University of Heidelberg, autopsies revealed other causes of death (due to pre-existing illnesses) in 10 patients (Supplementary Table 1). Hence, these were excluded from further analysis. Cardiac autopsy findings consistent with (epi-)myocarditis were found in five cases of the remaining 25 bodies found unexpectedly dead at home within 20 days following SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Main characteristics of the five cases are presented in Table 2, while further autopsy findings are shown in Supplementary Table 2. Three of the deceased persons were women, two men. Median age at death was 58 years (range 46–75 years). Four persons died after the first vaccine jab, the remaining case after the second dose. All persons died within the first week following vaccination (mean 2.5 days, median 2 days).

Clinical findings, blood tests, ECGs or imaging data were not available as deceased persons did not seek medical attention prior to death. Person 1 was found dead 12 h after the vaccination. A witness described a rattling breath shortly before discovering circulatory failure. Person 2 complained about nausea and was found dead soon thereafter. Resuscitation was started immediately but without success, respectively. The other persons were found dead at home without available information about terminal symptoms. According to the available information provided at the time of autopsies, none of the deceased persons had SARS-CoV-2 infection prior to vaccination and nasopharyngeal swabs were negative in all cases.

Edited September 1, 2023 by D2sage

[Recursoinominado]

10 minutes ago, D2sage said:

Here is a better study. From April 25 2023.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-022-02129-5#Sec3

Among the 35 cases of the University of Heidelberg, autopsies revealed other causes of death (due to pre-existing illnesses) in 10 patients (Supplementary Table 1). Hence, these were excluded from further analysis. Cardiac autopsy findings consistent with (epi-)myocarditis were found in five cases of the remaining 25 bodies found unexpectedly dead at home within 20 days following SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Main characteristics of the five cases are presented in Table 2, while further autopsy findings are shown in Supplementary Table 2. Three of the deceased persons were women, two men. Median age at death was 58 years (range 46–75 years). Four persons died after the first vaccine jab, the remaining case after the second dose. All persons died within the first week following vaccination (mean 2.5 days, median 2 days).

Clinical findings, blood tests, ECGs or imaging data were not available as deceased persons did not seek medical attention prior to death. Person 1 was found dead 12 h after the vaccination. A witness described a rattling breath shortly before discovering circulatory failure. Person 2 complained about nausea and was found dead soon thereafter. Resuscitation was started immediately but without success, respectively. The other persons were found dead at home without available information about terminal symptoms. According to the available information provided at the time of autopsies, none of the deceased persons had SARS-CoV-2 infection prior to vaccination and nasopharyngeal swabs were negative in all cases.

"Finally, we cannot provide a definitive functional proof or a direct causal link between vaccination and myocarditis. Further studies and extended registry are needed to identify persons at risk for this potentially fatal AEFI and may be aided by detailed clinical, serological, and molecular analyses which were beyond the scope of this study"

[D2sage]

@Recursoinominado What proof do you need Einstein?

All persons died within the first week following vaccination.

Edited September 1, 2023 by D2sage

[Recursoinominado]

3 minutes ago, D2sage said:

All persons died within the first week following vaccination.

Science 101: Correlation is different from causation.

[D2sage]

The statement you provided is a common feature in many scientific studies, especially those related to medical or health-related research. This type of statement have several important purposes like legal protection and to encourage further research.

You cited the only thing that is standard practice in many health studies. Hilariously stupid. 

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by D2sage

[Recursoinominado]

2 minutes ago, D2sage said:

The statement you provided is a common feature in many scientific studies, especially those related to medical or health-related research.

The reason: they are not morons that jump to conclusions.