Self & Other

[Hero in progress]

The distinction between Self & other arise together.

When you make the distinction of yourself, you are already Creating the distinction of other. Do you notice that? 

When you were young the distinction of you as a separate entity was created, and from that other as a separate entity was created also. See?

Do you ever notice that the conceptual image of "you" arises more often around "others"

There is a particular feeling that you get around others, something that indicates there is another entity that has sentience here.

When you are walking down a road by yourself and then you suddenly see another person, the vibe of the moment changes doesn't it.

This relationship that you have with other is created by thought and feeling. And is illusory. 

It is something you can only become directly conscious of.  

The whole social world that you live in pretty much 24/7 is all created by conceptual add ons over what's really occurring. For example when you are talking on this forum, in your experience you are not merely writing words on a screen. You are talking to other people. A whole community.

But can you notice that this isn't really the case, this apparent whole social community is only thought, is only a concept layered over words and profile pictures. That might be difficult for some of you to understand for the moment.

Do you notice that when you are around other people, what's really there is a animation, of somebody, with shape and colour ect.

But we perceive through us as a self concept and image first and that self then interprets others self concept and image. Tricky stuff.  you baffled yet?

Let me try to explain further.

If there was no thought there would be no sense of self or other, there would only be what is. See?

The reason it can be so hard to get away from the sense of self you have is because there is a constant stream of thoughts showing you different right? Showing you that you do exist.

But if its appearing for you, its not you. You don't have to silence the mind, its the belief in the mind that obscures you from seeing your true nature.

if the image of you comes & goes, it can't be what you are. When you are watching TV you may forget about yourself  and image and yet you don't disappear! hmm interesting 

All this stuff might not make sense at all right now, but that's the nature of this work. Its not like finding a answer and concluding from that. This stuff takes serious investigation.

Peace.

 

[aurum]

Very well said.

This is tricky to explain because the mind loves to distort.

"No-self" is technically a concept. "Non-existence" is a concept.

Reality is transcends all of it.

Really the only thing you can say is silence...but that doesn't get us very far in terms of practicality.

[WaveInTheOcean]

Everything written on this forum is expressions of the one self. Everything read on thi forum is read by the one self.
Goes for all forums. Goes for all spoken and heard words as well.

Edited March 26, 2017 by WaveInTheOcean

[Hero in progress]

@aurum Thanks, you are right its so tricky, really there's no way you can explain this stuff! Its gets to a point were words just are not worthy enough for this stuff. But hey like you said in terms of practicality you have to try say something, its like trying to explain the phenomena of water to someone who's never been exposed to it, and not only that there mind is designed & programmed to obscure any real communication happening. Tricky stuff. But yey wouldn't have it any other way.

[Hero in progress]

@WaveInTheOcean Theres only the one self, the infinite.

[WaveInTheOcean]

1 hour ago, Callum A said:

@WaveInTheOcean Theres only the one self, the infinite.

yep, and everything and everyone are pure imagination by that one infinite conscious self.