Hell animation

[Princess Arabia]

Hell and Heaven are right here and right now. States of mind. That video is pretty funny to me. It should be a comedy. That's what the mind feels like when you're in hell. Not sure if the correct word is feel but I can't even think as I'm writing this while that ridiculous video is still in my ear. 

[Someone here]

@Bazooka Jesus OK I promised you that I will give it a listen and I will.  But why do you think that hell is a superstition? If consciousness is infinite .. Doesn’t that mean it can manifest literally anything?  If you say  hell is impossible for god then you are stripping God of its omnipotence. 

 

Edited August 22, 2023 by Someone here

[Someone here]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Hell and Heaven are right here and right now

How so?  My experience right now is not heavenly or hellish. Its somewhere in the middle .

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

That video is pretty funny to me. It should be a comedy.

Don't lie .it must've caused you some percentage of fear . Even if you claim to be so awake . that's why you feel fear horror movies ..even though you know its a movie .

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Someone here said:

How so?  My experience right now is not heavenly or hellish. Its somewhere in the middle .

Don't lie .it must've caused you some percentage of fear . Even if you claim to be so awake . that's why you feel fear horror movies ..even though you know its a movie .

Where have I claimed to be so awake. Please quote. I'm dying to see it. Just because someone might share specific insights with you to expand your awareness, doesn't mean they are claiming to be awake. My experience is not heaven nor hell it just is. I was merely responding to your post. Please don't project your fear unto me by saying it must have caused me some percentage of fear. No it didnt. It actually made me laugh. Horror movies lead up to something. I might get a reaction from watching the entire movie but watching some clip about some particular place you call hell doesn't instill fear. Horror movies doesn't even instill fear, it might cause a knee-jerk reaction which is different from fear.

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Where have I claimed to be so awake. Please quote. I'm dying to see it. Just because someone might share specific insights with you to expand your awareness, doesn't mean they are claiming to be awake. My experience is not heaven nor hell it just is. I was merely responding to your post. Please don't project your fear unto me by saying it must have caused me some percentage of fear. No it didnt. It actually made me laugh. Horror movies lead up to something. I might get a reaction from watching the entire movie but watching some clip about some particular place you call hell doesn't instill fear. Horror movies doesn't even instill fear, it might cause a knee-jerk reaction which is different from fear.

Yeah you didn't claim you are awake . But the "vibe" I got from your comment is that you are so above and beyond existential fears.. like its child play for you . And that's just not true . Every sane human being knows that he is gonna die someday. And is afraid of death itself and what comes after death . Hell being one possibility.

Just go to your kitchen and touch a hot stove ..and see the excruciating pain .now what if we take that pain and multiply it by infinity?  You seriously gonna claim that you are not afraid of this possibility? 

Although I think people who use the threat of Hell to try to get people to be believers are major reason why people either tune out those trying to get them interested in the faith.

You will never see or hear of me making such an argument..and I don’t associate with people who do. But I do say that I'm a Muslim and in  Islam hell is real .so I don't know what to say to you .

 

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

41 minutes ago, Someone here said:

If consciousness is infinite .. Doesn’t that mean it can manifest literally anything?

Well sure, consciousness can put itself into a state that is so horrible that you might want to call it hell... but it's not a place where you get sent by the big daddy in the sky because you've been a bad liitle boy. The ony "hell" that can ever exist is the one that you create for yourself. Plus, no state of consciousness is ever eternal. The only thing which has any kind of permanence is impermanence. Change is the only constant in existence!

Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.

- A Course In  Miracles -

 

Edited August 22, 2023 by Bazooka Jesus

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

but it's not a place where you get sent by the big daddy in the sky because you've been a bad liitle boy. 

 

I think a lot of people have the wrong perspective on God and assume that He is egotistical and prideful thus quick to send someone to hell if they screw up. Not so! That’s the characteristics of Satan. God is very loving and longs for each of us to come to Him regardless of our poor choices. The problem is with us though. You see..sins or being a bad little boy cannot be permitted into heaven. All it takes is asking for forgiveness and changing our behavior so that we are compliant with the laws of heaven. 

8 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

Plus, no state of consciousness is ever eternal. The only thing which has any kind of permanence is impermanence. Change is the only constant in existence!

Muslim scholars have debated whether hell is eternal or not .but the Quran clearly says it is . So for me personally it's a matter of whether I should trust logic or god . Idk really ? 

9 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.

Great quote ? 

[Princess Arabia]

26 minutes ago, Someone here said:

But the "vibe" I got from your comment is that you are so above and beyond existential fears.. like its child play for you

All I said was that clip made me laugh. I could have said worse things about it but I chose not to. I am not above and beyond anything and I never claim to be. I remember saying once that my main fear is losing my cat and I don't fear anything else. If that's what you're referring to. If not, then forget that part. I understand that all the stories my mind is making up about the future are just that, stories, so why am I fearing stories. If the boogeyman was to enter my door, I will probably be fearful of it and react but at the moment I'm not fearful of it because I'm not experiencing it at the moment.

This is exactly what these Religions and indoctrinations' do to us. They instill fear and when others don't react with the same fearful reactions as we do, we say they think they are above and beyond. You start to defend your stance, defend your limitations, defend your indoctrinations and if we don't agree you say we think we're awake. 

Now you see why I left the church years ago, because I wanted to think for myself, clear my mind and be my own person. Not what some group of people say I should be or believing in. Leo's videos resonated with me that's why I'm here. Doesn't mean I agree with everything he says but the foundation is what I resonated with and from there I build upon. He taught me a lot about a lot of things but so did a lot others that weren't affiliated with any form of Religion. They might quote some scriptures but it wasn't taken literally.

I'm not fearful of possibilities. I used to be but not anymore. Pain and fear are two different things. You are coming from a place of fear not love and I refuse to live my life in fear. There are still some things I'm trying to overcome but me posting them and defending them won't help. So I stay away from shedding light unto them because all I'll be doing is making the unreal real for me.

If I was on this forum preaching fear, depression, anxieties and selling people on some falsehood, I would probably be more understood, but all I'm doing is showing how the mind creates unwanted things and how we're not exercising our true nature as God and in getting flack for it. 

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

43 minutes ago, Someone here said:

You see..sins or being a bad little boy cannot be permitted into heaven.

Cannot be permitted by whom?

43 minutes ago, Someone here said:

All it takes is asking for forgiveness

Asking for forgiveness by whom?

Only you can give yourself forgiveness and permission to enter heaven. You are your own judge, prison guard and/or liberator; you hold the keys to your salvation in your own hands. God's power is your own power, my friend.

 

Edited August 22, 2023 by Bazooka Jesus