True face of Porn

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Something Funny said:

@Princess Arabia sorry, but you don't know what you are talking about.

You're right that's why I'm not in that field someone more capable is. Everything is not for everyone.

[Roy]

Yea it's brutal, but I have a hard time feeling that bad for people who knowingly get involved in such businesses.

Nobody HAS to do it in a lot of cases. They are just greedy or don't want to work hard. There is no reason they couldn't work full-time at McDonalds like everyone else. Everyone thinks they are fucking special though, and not take responsibility for their awful decisions. They want everyone else to bail them out, or blame "the system".

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

People have to learn to have the guts to go their own way and ignore their stupid culture and idiot friends around them. They are what drags them into making such decisions in the first place.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Roy said:

Yea it's brutal, but I have a hard time feeling that bad for people who knowingly get involved in such businesses.

Nobody HAS to do it in a lot of cases. They are just greedy or don't want to work hard. There is no reason they couldn't work full-time at McDonalds like everyone else. Everyone thinks they are fucking special though, and not take responsibility for their awful decisions. They want everyone else to bail them out, or blame "the system".

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

People have to learn to have the guts to go their own way and ignore their stupid culture and idiot friends around them. They are what drags them into making such decisions in the first place.

Did you watch the whole interview?

[Roy]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Did you watch the whole interview?

No I never watch entire video links, my time is too important!

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Did you watch the whole interview?

Well this thread is about the video, which I took the time to watch before commenting and not just throwing some random comment out there bashing people without knowing the circumstances first.

Edited August 12, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[StarStruck]

@Princess Arabia aren't you in the porn industry? How can you even talk like this?

[Princess Arabia]

35 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

@Princess Arabia aren't you in the porn industry? How can you even talk like this?

Because I'm not partial and this is why I CAN comment on the topic. I don't know what comment i made why you're saying this other than not every porn star has been trafficked and that porn watchers should not be guilted because they watch porn. There's a difference between being aware of something and doing something to deliberately contributing to something. I'm not really in the porn industry, meaning on-screen but I used to be a stripper for 5yrs and I'm an escort at the moment and I have not been trafficked or forced to do anything. 

I'm just tired of the stigma related to girls in this field and how we're so traumatized and/or have been trafficked. 

[integral]

2 hours ago, Something Funny said:

@Princess Arabia sorry, but you don't know what you are talking about.

I thought her point made perfect sense. 

[integral]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not really in the porn industry, meaning on-screen but I used to be a stripper for 5yrs and I'm an escort at the moment and I have not been trafficked or forced to do anything

OMG the first to be enlightened in adult industries, this is epic. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, integral said:

I thought her point made perfect sense. 

Sometimes I don't even bother, because I'm aware I'm a deep thinker and some people have problems seeing the bigger picture, and also I could be wrong, so rather than debate certain things I just let it be.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, integral said:

OMG the first to be enlightened in adult industries, this is epic. 

Lmao

[Schizophonia]

One of the main French porn actors is a funny youtuber; a kind of andrew tate smaller but more intelligent and funny.

https://www.jmcorda.com/en/

lol, small pub if there are interested

Edited August 12, 2023 by Schizophonia

[StarStruck]

@Princess Arabia how do you combine high consciousness with being an escort? I can imagine it can be a tough job. Are you even honest towards yourself? From what I heard from girls from the industry, mostly weird guys with stinky asses who can’t get girls order such services. I’m just asking because I’m curious because I have a hard time imagining how I would enjoy that. 

[Ajax]

As a member of the human species. I agree to abide to the UN Declaration of Human Rights to the best of my ability.  This is senior to any moral considerations of should or should not. 

Here is an excerpt from article 12:

"No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks."

This is my position regarding porn. 

 

As for sex trafficking or treatment of those in the Adult Industry:

Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

According to these basic rights, those that are members of the human species should protect the basic rights of self and others. However, it should not be done by violating the other parts of the Declaration, but by abiding by it. Don't protect human rights by violating human rights. 

Personal responsibly is paramount, but so is Human responsibility. Rights ignored are rights lost. 

  

[Something Funny]

42 minutes ago, integral said:

I thought her point made perfect sense. 

Which one?

The one where she can't wrap her mind around how you can call out the dark side of porn without guilting or shaming anyone and without saying that LITERALLY ALL PORN IS SEX TRAFFICKING?

Or the one where seems to think that if a person talks about how increased demand for porn promotes sex trafficking then they must believe that ALL SEX TRAFFICKING IS CAUSED BY PORN CONSUMPTION, and that if a person wants to address this particular part of the problem, then they are against other things like prosecuting sex trafficking directly, parenting, and education?

To clarify, my main critique is that it's very easy to be all vague, saying things like: "this is a much larger issue and we live in a complex world" and that "we need to address it at the root cause". Without actually saying anything useful. But I guess that's what self proclaimed "deep thinkers" do...

This thread was raising a very specific issue, which is worth addressing. So saying stuff like "yeah, and we poison air by breathing, and kill ants by walking" seems really out of place.

@Princess Arabia it's funny how you say that you've watched the interview and still decided to mention parenting and schooling. Even though it was clearly shown that not only it is not the issue in many cases, it will also not help you at all in a lot of times. Literally everyone could have ended up in her situation no matter how good their family/education are.

Also the whole "not all porn is sex trafficking" argument is totally irrelevant because:

1) you have no reliable way of discerning which video was and wasn't made ethically (or even legally)

2) considering the amount of porn the average user watches, it's a safe bet to say that if you are a regular porn user, you have probably watched at least a few such videos in your life

45 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not really in the porn industry, meaning on-screen but I used to be a stripper for 5yrs and I'm an escort at the moment and I have not been trafficked or forced to do anything. 

Oh then sure, we should all stop talking about it, since it didn't affect you personally 

Edited August 12, 2023 by Something Funny

[Ajax]

10 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

ALL SEX TRAFFICKING IS CAUSED BY PORN CONSUMPTION

 Sex Trafficking has been around far before porn consumption. 

You can't regulate porn consumption without violating human rights. 

You can support causes and continually educate people of human rights. You can encourage people to know and exercise their rights. That you can do. 

Edited August 12, 2023 by Ajax

[Something Funny]

@Ajax can you please go, drink some coffee, and then read that paragraph again? 

I've literally said that simply pointing out the fact that porn contributes to (please google the word "contributes to" and note how it doesn't translate to: "is the one and only cause of something") sex trafficking does not mean that all of sex trafficking is caused by porn.

But thank you for pointing out that sex trafficking has existed before porn. I didn't know that /s

 

Edited August 12, 2023 by Something Funny

[Ajax]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

@Ajax can you please go, drink some coffee, and read that paragraph again? 

I've literally said that simply pointing out the fact that porn contributes to (please google the word contributes and note how it doesn't translate to: "is the one and only cause of something") sex trafficking does not mean that all of sex trafficking is caused by porn.

But thank you for pointing out that sex trafficking has existed before porn. I didn't know that /s

 

You are right, sex trafficking existed before porn.

Drug addiction contributes to it, Broken hearts contribute it, financial disaster contributes to it, Broken families contribute to it, poverty contributes to it, starvation contributes to it, sexual abuse contributes it... There are countless things that contribute to it. 

Do you know what also contributes to it? Lack of education and encouragement and collective responsibility to protect and maintain Human Rights. 

Drinking some coffee right now, a good Puerto Rican expresso, black and bold.

#Knowyourrights

[Something Funny]

2 hours ago, Roy said:

No I never watch entire video links, my time is too important!

Well... Looks like in this case it has backfired and caused you to make a fool of yourself.

Cause if you have bothered to watch the interview before being an ass, you would have know that it shares a story of a girl who has never planned to have anything to do with the porn industry, and who was shamelessly mislead, taken advantage of, threatened, and raped.

Edited August 12, 2023 by Something Funny

[Something Funny]

1 minute ago, Ajax said:

You are right, sex trafficking existed before porn.

Drug addiction contributes to it, Broken hearts contribute it, financial disaster contributes to it, Broken families contribute to it, poverty contributes to it, starvation contributes to it, sexual abuse contributes it... There are countless things that contribute to it. 

Do you know what also contributes to it? Lack of education and encouragement and collective responsibility to protect and maintain Human Rights. 

Drinking some coffee right now, a good Puerto Rican expresso, black and bold.

#Knowyourrights

So?

Does that mean that porn doesn't deserve to be addressed?

What's your point? This is a thread talking about porn specifically.