All tools, techniques, meditations or psychedelics are completely Unnecessary

[Javfly33]

Of course you might have to do some of these ones to get to a point to realize it...but once you do realize it, all tools will be seen as completely imaginary and unnecessary.

I realised that... if I don't think, everything that I wanted is right here.

If I just do not touch the mind phenomena (thinking, projecting, imagining), and stay Consciousness, ALL IS SOLVED. 

If you are able to close your eyes and truly truly let go of ALL ideas and intellectual attachments, THAT´S IT. The dream is GONE.

All language concepts must be let go, surrendered and seen as mere thoughts, and as phenomena that is different to Experience. 

This includes:

' I am Alive'.

'I am going to die'

'There is something as reality'

'I am existing somewhere'

'I need to Awaken'

'I am a human existing somewhere'

'Others are existing somewhere else'

'I exist'

'There is time'

'There is something'.

'I am in a certain place on reality, and  I can move to other places'.

And the list goes on... as you can expect, the mind can create ideas for ever.

If you just turn your back to absolutely all ideas, then that's it. You won. 

You are kidding yourself if you think you can understand the dream, ironically that is MORE dreaming.

The way you keep yourself entangled in the dream is by thinking you can understand it or going 'profound' into ti. That is more Maya. 

[Someone here]

28 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

You are kidding yourself if you think you can understand the dream, ironically that is MORE dreaming

So you didn't understand the multiplication table when you were at school ? 

[itsadistraction]

Great post. I often wonder if reality can be fully known or will it always be mysteries on the deepest level.

[Javfly33]

On 8/8/2023 at 7:17 PM, Someone here said:

So you didn't understand the multiplication table when you were at school ? 

But that is not understanding the dream. That is understating things that exist within the dream @Someone here

[Someone here]

3 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

But that is not understanding the dream. That is understating things that exist within the dream @Someone here

And what's the difference? 

The dream =the sum total of the things within the dream .

[Vibroverse]

On 08.08.2023 at 8:17 PM, Someone here said:

So you didn't understand the multiplication table when you were at school ? 

Good question. Our minds work similarly, hahah. 

 

[gettoefl]

all completely true

but takes lifetimes to arrive at this realization or at least a large chunk of a current one

yet there are ways to extricate from the dream ... sure they are not necessary but they do the job

[Javfly33]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

And what's the difference? 

The dream =the sum total of the things within the dream .

There is a difference. As Leo have said, Science measures things inside the dream, but Science can not grasp the dream. Because science is within the dream. @Someone here