The Feminine Perspective in Spirituality

[Razard86]

I have had a desire to hear more feminine perspectives. Here is a woman who gives a unique take on free will fate and destiny. 

Pretty interesting perspective 

[Holykael]

It's complete nonsense. There's only destiny, there are no timelines, probabilities or anything like that. 

Here's a better perspective. https://youtu.be/EkaPeO2i79w?si=cCKeLM5HQx10yW1l

Edited August 4, 2023 by Holykael

[Carl-Richard]

49 minutes ago, Holykael said:

It's complete nonsense. There's only destiny, there are no timelines, probabilities or anything like that. 

Here's a better perspective. https://youtu.be/EkaPeO2i79w?si=cCKeLM5HQx10yW1l

Your fixation on this hyper-skeptic and nihilist way of describing reality is amputating your ability to understand reality. Chemicals in the brain, timelines, probabilities are all useful descriptions of reality. They're just at a different layer than the Absolute. There is no need to talk about them in such a dismissive way ("it's complete nonsense, there is no such thing").

Edited August 4, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[Holykael]

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Your fixation on this hyper-skeptic and nihilist way of describing reality is amputating your ability to understand reality. Chemicals in the brain, timelines, probabilities are all useful descriptions of reality. They're just at a different layer than the Absolute. There is no need to talk about them in such a dismissive way ("it's complete nonsense, there is no such thing").

I'm averse to falsehood. And probability cannot exist, it can only be simulated. There's no such thing as uncertainty or randomness, the universe doesn't make mistakes.

Edited August 4, 2023 by Holykael

[Carl-Richard]

11 minutes ago, Holykael said:

I'm averse to falsehood. And probability cannot exist, it can only be simulated. There's no such thing as uncertainty or randomness, the universe doesn't make mistakes.

But when I flip a coin say 1000 times, how would you describe the relationship between the amount of heads I get vs. the amount of tails? Well, obviously that's probability. Probability is not a perfect measurement. It depends on large numbers for consistent patterns to show up, and just because something is highly improbable doesn't mean it cannot happen. But that doesn't mean it's not a valid concept. In fact, most ways of describing reality are not perfect, even your own hyper-skeptical attempts.

Edited August 4, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[Holykael]

3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

But when I flip a coin say 1000 times, how would you describe the relationship between the amount of heads I get vs. the amount of tails? Well, obviously that's probability. Probability is not a perfect measurement. It depends on large numbers for consistent patterns to show up, and just because something is highly improbable doesn't mean it cannot happen. But that doesn't mean it's not a valid concept. In fact, most ways of describing reality are not perfect, even your own hyper-skeptical attempts.

The outcome of all your coinflips is predetermined, saying it is a probability is a mere conceptual convenience.

[Carl-Richard]

10 minutes ago, Holykael said:

The outcome of all your coinflips is predetermined, saying it is a probability is a mere conceptual convenience.

Yes. There are many conceptual conveniences that we concede to when communicating and that even you are conceding to in your skeptical language framework. It's just that you're creating a tone of antagonism towards a select few of those conveniences, while I'm saying that it's not necessary to do so.

[Holykael]

Here's another woman's perspective.

 

 

[integral]

1 hour ago, Holykael said:

Here's another woman's perspective.

 

So why is her experience of predeterminism positive while yours is all negative? 

[Holykael]

3 minutes ago, integral said:

So why is her experience of predeterminism positive while yours is all negative? 

Because god willed it to be negative for me. Predeterminism is inherently neutral but it's also super dangerous when god decides that your life will be shit and you are stuck in a prison with no way out.

[integral]

10 minutes ago, Holykael said:

Because god willed it to be negative for me. Predeterminism is inherently neutral but it's also super dangerous when god decides that your life will be shit and you are stuck in a prison with no way out.

Do you believe that woman didnt experience a life of many tragedies and suffering? How did she come out of it feeling good? 

[Holykael]

8 minutes ago, integral said:

Do you believe that woman didnt experience a life of many tragedies and suffering? How did she come out of it feeling good? 

She's just a character in this dream with no life of her own. Her existence is just those videos. You can't really know, it's pure speculation. And sure there may be people that suffer a lot and end up feeling good but likewise there are a lot of people who don't even suffer and feel bad or depressed and people who wish they were never born. It's infinity, anything goes. And therein lies the abomination, the consequence of anything goes is utterly dreadful.

[integral]

@Holykael So lets speculate that she had many horrible events happen to her then she discovered predeterminism and stopped identified with the character and became happy. Why did she become happy and you cant? 

Edited August 4, 2023 by integral

[Holykael]

1 minute ago, integral said:

@Holykael So lets speculate that she had many horrible events happen to her then she discovered predeterminism and stopped identified with the character and became happy. Why did she become happy and you cant? 

Because it is predetermined by god that I be miserable. What does that say about god?

Edited August 4, 2023 by Holykael

[integral]

5 minutes ago, Holykael said:

Because it is predetermined by god that I be miserable. What does that say about god?

For her believing she is not the character was freedom and gave her relief from the story of her life.

While you still believe your the character. So you haven't reached her level yet.

So do the work?

Edited August 4, 2023 by integral

[Holykael]

Just now, integral said:

For her believing she is not the character was freedom and gave her relief from the story of her life.

While you still believe your the character. So you haven't reached her level yet.

So do the work?

I will feel the character's pains and feelings until it dies. So what does it matter if I'm not it but still I'm feeling it. What value is there in "knowing you're not the character" if you're fucking stuck with it lol.  And who's writing this text. Is it the character? Or is it god? That implies a duality. The character and god are one.

[Hojo]

@Holykael if its true that she has no consciousness or you cant know they why are you worried about genocide? if genocide happens in front of you no one is getting hurt

Edited August 4, 2023 by Hojo

[Schizophonia]

22 minutes ago, Holykael said:

She's just a character in this dream with no life of her own. Her existence is just those videos. You can't really know, it's pure speculation. And sure there may be people that suffer a lot and end up feeling good but likewise there are a lot of people who don't even suffer and feel bad or depressed and people who wish they were never born. It's infinity, anything goes. And therein lies the abomination, the consequence of anything goes is utterly dreadful.

She's imagining somewhere in God's imagination.

Edited August 4, 2023 by Schizophonia

[Holykael]

8 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Holykael if its true that she has no consciousness or you cant know they why are you worried about genocide? if genocide happens in front of you no one is getting hurt

I care about genocide because I still care about people even if they don't have their own consciousness. But facts don't care about your feelings as some say and god is a monster that will commit genocide again and again.

Edited August 4, 2023 by Holykael

[Hojo]

@Holykael a video cant get hurt its a pixel changing a colour