Leo, Your Apology

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

I just wanted to probe into you to see if it was sincere or if it came from selfishness.   Clearly it was indeed sincere 

Or maybe I tricked you.

I am more tricky than you will ever be

Edited August 8, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Inliytened1]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Or maybe I tricked you.

I am more tricky than you will ever be

Perhaps.   Or perhaps you are just growing up. Forget not that I have more than a decade on you.  You are brilliant- but still, I am God. 

Edited August 8, 2023 by Inliytened1

[Razard86]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Perhaps.   Or perhaps you are just growing up. Forger not that I have more than a decade on you.  You are brilliant- but I am God. 

LOL....look at this rivalry!!! I love it!!

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

LOL....look at this rivalry!!! I love it!!

I would hope so.  You are imagining every word said here.   You invented both of us.

Edited August 8, 2023 by Inliytened1

[MsNobody]

I'm sorry for your pain @Leo Gura

Would you say on the body level you are going from the mind (intelectual) to the heart (feeling)?

I feel like it's a virus that was implanted in us (by us /internet), we are so hard and speak so harshly with ourselves, this reflects on how we talk to people of course.

I ask you because after two years recording videos for my channel, I found myself stuck because of how I use my words and speak my truth, and sometimes (actually most of the time) don't think about how people will feel when receiving it. My work lacks love and compassion, and I see that we as humans flower if given enough love.

I have a deep need to be in community right now, but it's a battle because I enjoy my solitude and internal explorations. 

Open to hearing other peoples opinions on the topic also 

[How to be wise]

@MsNobody I actually don’t find Leo harsh at all. Just because he’s not Matt Kahn doesn’t mean he’s uncaring. I think there’s a loud minority who’s telling him he is not compassionate. 

[Yimpa]

26 minutes ago, MsNobody said:

after two years recording videos for my channel, I found myself stuck because of how I use my words and speak my truth, and sometimes (actually most of the time) don't think about how people will feel when receiving it. My work lacks love and compassion, and I see that we as humans flower if given enough love.

Speaking in a compassionate, loving way is helpful. However, what we tend to lack is a deep understanding of the whole human experience. Most of us learn to treat others lovingly, yet we’re not taught to also love and understand ugly truths.

When our perspective and experience is narrow, so is our impact on others. No amount of manipulating words can substitute for deep integration.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, MsNobody said:

Would you say on the body level you are going from the mind (intelectual) to the heart (feeling)?

I don't frame it that way. I frame it all as mind. Mind can be immature or mature. Mind can become more evolved and more self-aware, which leads to more compassion.

[Tboy]

On 02/08/2023 at 11:23 AM, Jayson G said:

Just wanted to say @Leo Gura, this post means a lot. I'm not the one to get in arguments with you and all that, but you've been literally my hero these past 8 years, and past few years I always had a fear before posting that "just don't get yelled at by someone you look up to a lot"  .. but also even if your behaviors don't change immediately, the thought really does count, just knowing that you're trying is enough for me. What more can anyone expect? You're human too. Humans are messy by nature. 

I can't speak for others who have faced harsher replies, but I think we all know deep down you care a lot, more than you realize, about the actualized community, and the individuals. You take the time to individually reply to us, to look at our circumstances. To be truthful as best as you can, and pour your heart out in your videos. 

Nothing about this is easy. 

And lastly, I hope whatever deep suffering you're going through at the moment, is manageable and you're able to come out strong. I don't know what to make out of "deep suffering" but just that I, we, care and hope you're doing well. 

I second this

[Naol]

@Leo Gura, I want to express to you my profound gratitude, love, and hype for this return to Humanity you are trying to make !

It is great to know that your are "back on our side" so to speak. Your aventures in extreme states of consciousness have probably reached the limits that human beings can atain. This was a worthy contribution. You must have found wild treasure beyond what I can imagine. So I am very hyped that now you will try to include, use, and share them for the benefit of humanity. This "come back" to the human tribe and sharing is truly heroic. I hope that you will enjoy it as much as the treasure hunting ahah.

I have listened to all of your videos and taken the LP course, and it transformed my life for the better. But I also have fallen into the trap of transcendance to the detriment of inclusion, and suffered because of it (burnout, physical illness,....). Latly I listened less and less to your recent videos as I was seeing in my life that the infinit quest for infite/absolut insight was throwing me out of balance. I was starting to accept that you had chosen a path that departed from mine and that I would not recieve as much guidance by the OG hero-sage... but my man you seems to still be in the game ! Thats so nice, I am hype to see what will be comming, but also to see you find back your ballance and flourish as a human being !

You have my deepest gratitude bro.

If you want to connect to a fellow adventurer on this Journey of life please send me a message, I would gladly be there for you if you want some human connection, support and sharing (from somone that understand in part what you feel and think). 

Best recovery to you !