ego is resistance to letting go of control

[Chives99]

why do you need control? what would happen if you never had to 'make' a decision ever again. i mean 'YOU' are still going to do stuff, but 'you' the ego has no say in the matter, imagine giving the xbox controller of your life to the universe, what would happen? WHO FUCKING KNOWS????????? LET LIFE LIVE YOU, TAOISM IS THE ART OF EFFORTLESS ACTION, trusting yourself and your own mind means trusting the universe

[integral]

+1

[Carl-Richard]

Give up the illusory control of your life and become the universe that is actually controlling your life.

[Jowblob]

When i was in the void, what i brought back that you as god is already trying to give yourself best life possible within its understanding and limits. Which was scary. God is a tiny point of consciousness that is there in the void somehow... the voids is infinitely times bigger then god. 

 

Hopefully this isnt truth, but the energy i felt there was 100% familliar, which were extreme slow/powerfull vibrations of being conscious, the heat of myself was felt as love but different, that heat is represented here more as love/warmth but there it was more as having everything inside you

Edited July 28, 2023 by Jowblob

[Breakingthewall]

18 hours ago, Jowblob said:

When i was in the void

Just go again. Scary, right? We have to go again and again, not just once

[Salvijus]

Mmm... sounds incomplete.

[Breakingthewall]

the ego is just fear. there are possibilities that you want to avoid, and you act by controlling the situation so that they do not occur. it is a natural, legitimate and inevitable human function, like the hunting instinct in lions for example. the thing to do with the ego is not to allow it to turn you into a total controller, because it's a fantasy, it's impossible, you can't control the 99,9% of the thing, so let's control what it's possible and totally relax in what isn't. The controller has to dance with the absence of control, knowing that at the end, everything is exactly how it has to be

[Salvijus]

16 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

the ego is just fear

Mmm... so fear makes us act in a certain way.  If we were to lose fear, what would be driving our actions then?

[Salvijus]

18 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Mmm... so fear makes us act in a certain way.  If we were to lose fear, what would be driving our actions then?

I think either that one would completely merge into emptyness and motionless existence. Or another drive would take over. The drive of pure love.

If love was the only motivating factor in one's life what would that one do? Once somebody is living motivated only by love and not by fear that one is doing god's will and not ego's will

there. Now the thread feels complete to me ?

That's why "chose love over fear" is such a profound pointer.

Edited July 29, 2023 by Salvijus

[Hojo]

the ego is just a logic game god gets trapped into. you dont have to think to exist ! you are the well of water and you are plunging yourself into it and struggling not realizing that you dont need to come up or move for a breath so no need to struggle! logic just distorts the water and not able to see clearly. all logic does it create misery. You have already trained your mind and body what it need to function by itself and it will

Edited July 29, 2023 by Hojo

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Salvijus said:

Mmm... so fear makes us act in a certain way.  If we were to lose fear, what would be driving our actions then?

If we loose all fear, we will die . Fear is necessary. that's how human existence is. You have to find the balance, minimal fear but enough. For example, identifying useless fears and discarding them completely, staying with the essential fears, knowing that at a given moment we can also let them go, disappear as humans and no problem. We are always here, existing. Go as deep as possible, trascend the human, identify with the existence.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

you dont have to think to exist !

Without thinking, the humans would have been extinguished the day after they appeared

[Hojo]

@Breakingthewall  the body will move by itself, the dream will continue you just watch it, thinking is not happeningnot needed in consciousness. its just commentary. Thats like watching a movie with director commentary and saying the film couldnt exist without the commentary

Edited July 29, 2023 by Hojo

[Breakingthewall]

17 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Breakingthewall  the body will move by itself, the dream will continue you just watch it, thinking is not happeningnot needed in consciousness. its just commentary. Thats like watching a movie with director commentary and saying the film couldnt exist without the commentary

Yes, and tomorrow I feel lazy so why to work. the only problem with the ego is that you have to understand it and use it, or if it eats you up, you become some kind of crazy mental whirlwind. the  ego nowadays is extremely complex, it is not about digging ditches to avoid lions, it is a subtle matter. Either you tame him or you are his whore. You need awakening at the end, because if not, it's impossible to tame it

[Jowblob]

20 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, and tomorrow I feel lazy so why to work. the only problem with the ego is that you have to understand it and use it, or if it eats you up, you become some kind of crazy mental whirlwind. the  ego nowadays is extremely complex, it is not about digging ditches to avoid lions, it is a subtle matter. Either you tame him or you are his whore. You need awakening at the end, because if not, it's impossible to tame it

The reason some masters are there to give everything away freely, like ascended master haidakhan babaji 1970-1984. Is that they're at a consciousness level where you don't need food or water, so ofcourse you will give away everything freely but for us its a different story. How do i know?

I have experienced no food/no suffering/no water consciousness state, you're in like a godly state and i must say it wasnt even far from our own normal state. So yeah ego shouldn't be blamed as we literally need it to play the game or the game stops

Edited July 29, 2023 by Jowblob

[Breakingthewall]

@Jowblob  those masters are feeding for their students, let's see if they are in the misery, may be the would have an ego.

btw some days ago I did a psychedelic that I think you will like a lot: 2cb. Let's say like a mix of MDMA and LSD. I have to do higher dose but seems really interesting

Edited July 29, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Hojo]

@Breakingthewall  taming it is not listening when you stop listening it dissapear and you dont think about being lazy. You dont feel lazy you dont exist. You are  a loop of logic that dosent stop. Its useless commentary

[Jowblob]

13 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Jowblob  those masters are feeding for their students, let's see if they are in the misery, may be the would have an ego.

btw some days ago I did a psychedelic that I think you will like a lot: 2cb. Let's say like a mix of MDMA and LSD. I have to do higher dose but seems really interesting

I've read in the comments somewhere that 2cb can be as strong as 5 meo dmt so no thanks. And almost all consciousness increasing substances are simillar in one way or another. A friend of mine said he took 2cb ones and went outside, he said he saw the wind moving leaves in slow motion with a nice sound the best thing he has ever seen.

[LSD-Rumi]

17 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

some days ago I did a psychedelic that I think you will like a lot: 2cb.

I tried 2cb fly and it was very underwhelming. Is 2cb any good?

[Breakingthewall]

26 minutes ago, LSD-Rumi said:

I tried 2cb fly and it was very underwhelming. Is 2cb any good?

I liked, but it's not in the level of LSD or mushrooms. It's like a light psychedelic. I did it once and sat in the center of town watching people go by and it was pretty wonderful. I saw through people, I saw the whole human dance. very interesting. and could interact with anyone perfectly. The problem is that it has a bit of that mdma quality, the next day you're not perfect. I don't like that, I detect it as toxic. So I don't think I'll use it anymore. 5meo, psylocibin, LSD. Are the tools for spiritual work, and let's see DMT. But 2cb can be very useful for social anxiety, like a healing trip.