Why do feminists prefer sexist men but democrats are less satisfied in relationships?

[mr_engineer]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Staying in your comfort zone might make you pretty happy in a lame sort of way.

Would you say that physical and mental health is a major factor in happiness? If it is, then the comfort-zone that I described is a big happiness-killer. 

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I'm not sure what the optimal path to happiness is. It will certainly vary from person to person and also luck will be a factor. And there are different kinds of happiness. One kind of happiness will not satisfy certain kinds of people. Some people could be happy just working at the post office for 40 years and just raising a small family. But, for example, I could never be happy with that. Other people will be happy working on Wall Street for 40 years, raking in billions.

So you have to discover what you need that makes you happy.

Fair enough. This is a relativistic stance on happiness. 

If you do figure out the optimal path to happiness, please do teach it. It will get a lot of attention. 

Edited August 2, 2023 by mr_engineer

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, mr_engineer said:

If you do figure out the optimal path to happiness, please do teach it. It will get a lot of attention. 

My video: How Happiness Works is my best understanding of happiness so far. I think that's the most realistic approach for most people.

I suspect that the highest path to hardcore sustainable happiness is something like becoming a full-time monk or yogi. But few people are that serious or suitable for it. And if you aren't suitable it may make you extra miserable. I've experimented with that path and as much as I liked the idea of it I don't think is suits me. At least not right now. Maybe when I'm older.

I incur suffering and unhappiness for myself through the ambitions I have for my life and work. If I dropped all my ambitions I would probably find greater happiness but I don't want to drop all my ambitions. So it's a tricky balancing act.

Edited August 2, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, mr_engineer said:

Would you say that physical and mental health is a major factor in happiness?

Absolutely.

[Ulax]

On 7/26/2023 at 6:37 PM, SeaMonster said:

Progressive ideology not only makes people in marriage more unhappy, it makes people in general more unhappy.

@SeaMonster What about the people who would be left to die without the progressive provided welfare states around the world?

[SeaMonster]

On 8/2/2023 at 4:23 AM, Ulax said:

What about the people who would be left to die without the progressive provided welfare states around the world?

That wasn't the context of my statement (i.e. the provision of material goods or services.)  I mean, I could go into other means of providing these (such as community or church charity and all that) but that's not really the point and I don't want to take the discussion there on this thread.

My point was that actually believing current progressive ideology is bad for individual people psychologically.  It is stacked almost entirely on the side of nurture or "social construction" as opposed to nature/biology.  Being brainwashed or compelled to believe things that are observably untrue (or even to outwardly profess and defend such beliefs) makes for unhappy people.  

Edited August 11, 2023 by SeaMonster

[Ulax]

8 minutes ago, SeaMonster said:

That wasn't the context of my statement (i.e. the provision of material goods or services.)  I mean, I could go into other means of providing these (such as community or church charity and all that) but that's not really the point and I don't want to take the discussion there on this thread.

My point was that actually believing current progressive ideology is bad for individual people psychologically.  It is stacked almost entirely on the side of nurture or "social construction" as opposed to nature/biology.  Being brainwashed or compelled to believe things that are observably untrue (or even to outwardly profess and defend such beliefs) makes for unhappy people.  

Fairs dude, I'll respect your wishes on that.

[Schizophonia]

On 02/08/2023 at 9:18 AM, StarStruck said:

The book human magnet system explains this very well. Polar opposites attract each other like a dance that is called a relationship. Selfless man aren’t that attractive to most females which I won’t go into detail here.  

Not my experience at all, but I'm still missing pieces of the puzzle.
I always attract girls who have a similar energy to me.

[integral]

@Schizophonia Dude i attract exclusively athletic French girls with the same facial structure as me. When i turn to see them im its like looking in the mirror and my opening is always, "I dont speak french". 

[Raze]

4 hours ago, integral said:

@Schizophonia Dude i attract exclusively athletic French girls with the same facial structure as me. When i turn to see them im its like looking in the mirror and my opening is always, "I dont speak french". 

Studies have found people are more attracted to people with similar facial structure to them 

[integral]

@Raze Could be, unfortunately the language barrier killed any opportunity to see if I was compatible with any of them. 

[Roy]

It's because women have an inherit and predictable nature and psychology, that can be understood to predict their behavior and replicate it, and no amount of word games, mental gymnastics, or stupid ideologies like feminism will ever change that.

We are just fleshy automatons.

 

[Schizophonia]

22 hours ago, integral said:

@Schizophonia Dude i attract exclusively athletic French girls with the same facial structure as me. When i turn to see them im its like looking in the mirror and my opening is always, "I dont speak french". 

How did you end up in Montreal? 

[integral]

27 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

How did you end up in Montreal? 

Its basicly a crazy story, they still manufacture babies right here in montreal. One of the few things they dont outsource to china these days. 

[Lila9]

On 8/2/2023 at 10:18 AM, StarStruck said:

The book human magnet system explains this very well. Polar opposites attract each other like a dance that is called a relationship. Selfless man aren’t that attractive to most females which I won’t go into detail here.  

The polarity theory isn't accurate.

It's actually a myth that the best relationships occur between people who are the complete opposite of each other.

In reality, people tend to be attracted and have more successful relationships with similar people, with similar belief system and temperament and within this frame the natural femininity-masculinity balance takes a place but it may vary and change depends on the life situation. 

 

[Lila9]

On 8/12/2023 at 2:58 AM, Roy said:

It's because women have an inherit and predictable nature and psychology, that can be understood to predict their behavior and replicate it, and no amount of word games, mental gymnastics, or stupid ideologies like feminism will ever change that.

We are just fleshy automatons.

Lol you have no idea about female psychology and feminism. You are talking from ignorance.

[Roy]

4 hours ago, Lila9 said:

Lol you have no idea about female psychology and feminism. You are talking from ignorance.

You can understand anything if you put your mind to it. Luckily any bitterness and anger you might have doesn't preclude truth and understanding, otherwise we'd never get anything done.

[Lila9]

58 minutes ago, Roy said:

You can understand anything if you put your mind to it

Unfortunately it isn't written in this small and lame red pill pamphlet, you gotta investigate further.

[Schizophonia]

22 hours ago, integral said:

they still manufacture babies right here in montrea

hein ? 

[Raze]

On 7/26/2023 at 8:26 PM, Lila9 said:

Since society is pretty sexist and there are not many feminists and non-sexists men in society, benevolent sexism seems the least bad option, compared to more obvious sexism and misogyny.

This study specifically brought up men with egalitarian views in comparison, and women still preferred the sexist men. This probably wasn’t the case in this example.

[Lila9]

22 hours ago, Raze said:

This study specifically brought up men with egalitarian views in comparison, and women still preferred the sexist men. This probably wasn’t the case in this example.

According to this study, women prefer specifically benevolent sexism for the reason that it implies about traits in men like investment, giving, protecting, unlike the non-benevolent sexism.

Women' need for men investment is strong because men investment is crucial for the survival of the women and the children.

This is why most women, feminist and non feminist are more attracted to gentleman behaviors that linked to benevolent sexism like paying in dates and helping to carry heavy things over men who don't pay in dates, don't help with heavy things and don't have gentleman attitude towards women.

Our attraction for behaviors that implies about protecting, giving, loving and caring personality in men is so strong that we would prefer it even if it comes from a sexist intention.

In fact, it's not always clear for us when the men who treat us kindly do that because they are kind and want the best for us or because they are sexist and do that because they see us as inferior.

Additionally, many men who define themselves as "woke" don't pay in dates or engage in gentleman behaviors not because they really believe in feminism or anti sexism, but because they are non benevolent sexists who use wokeness as excuse to mistreat women, not help women in need or in danger, not paying on dates, they actually keep being sexist without the benevolent sexist behaviors.

They interpret equality between the genders as "every man for himself" attitude and say things like "you wanted equally? Here is equality for you, do it yourself" which implies about men who are not loving, giving and not ready to invest and this is obviously isn't attractive for women.

Also, some men are genuinely woke but avoid gentleman behaviors because they are sensitive to women and feminism so much that they fear to offend women so they become too nervous to take any action which makes them more passive and is obviously not attractive for women.

I also want to point that some men are pretty aware of women' need for investment and protection but they don't have these traits or intentions. What they do is that they manipulate women into believing that they have these traits and that they are serious while they are not, in order to get their needs met. They called players.

Players don't attract women because they are players but because they convincingly manipulate women into believing that they are serious. Most of them are narcissists and psychopaths with shallow chrisma.

When such type with shallow chrisma says to a woman beautiful words like, she is the one, that she is the prettiest, that he loves her, that he will do everything for her, that they will have 5 children together this can be highly convincing because most men don't say these things to women so confidently and passionately like players do.

And maybe that's why it's so easy for them to show such a level of vulnerability and confidence in these statements, because they don't really mean them, unlike many other men who may be very serious and mean to that but they can't express this in the same confident way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Lila9