Tate Brothers will End up in prison(most likely). Evidence is conclusive.

[Florian]

8 hours ago, something_else said:

Sometimes the bad things people have done are so bad that you don’t even bother considering the good things they have done. I think that’s rational.

I actually don’t even think he has done that much good, I suppose you could argue he has inspired many men to improve their lives. But he’s probably also inspired many men to start sex trafficking rings too. And he’s likely also destroyed many men’s lives too with his scams.

His bad side massively outweighs his good side.

Ye, it's obvious you can't see the good he brought. Because you are out of touch with reality. The world is still mostly a shithole. In the western countrys this situation has changed a bit recently but that also made the men in the following generations (the ones we have now) grow up in a relatively soft environment which made them relatively weak. Now I believe the reason why god gave Tate his moment is because Tate is the perfect man to show these men how to deal with the shithole reality that is still looming outside their relatively save homes. I don't even like Tate, I find him annoying and obnoxious btw and if he did shit things I'm sure he will get his shit reward for it but I still think that he did bring what is needed for good to find it's place in this world. You guys just can't appreciate the beauty in his dirty work. And also I saw many people here make fun about him confessing to his scams and crimes on video, saying he is just so narcisstic and dumb. Would you think higher of him if he didn't do that and you were just unaware of his crimes? Guess what, he is being honest and shows integrety. Cause integrety doesnt necessarily mean high values. It just means strength in your values. Not the highest form of integrety, sure, but still an upgrade to the average of the world in it's current state.

Edited August 15, 2023 by Florian
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[Bobby_2021]

8 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

Since they have accumulated an enormous file on the Tates, why aren't they being tried? (ok, they apparently have been charged, which are allegations to be proven)

The charges are not yet finalized. Charges related to minor trafficking and money laundering are pending and they will soon be charged.

The formal investigation began only in April 2022. They have not finished the investigation. 

8 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

will remain neutral until there is actually a trial and we see the evidence.

It's good to remain neutral and see facts without emotions. There is plenty of evidence available in the public domain and some of them is available in this thread and the resources for knowing more about them are mentioned here.

The trial will take time. Things move slow here. The trial should take place in October by the earliest or by early 2024.

[zurew]

4 hours ago, Florian said:

Guess what, he is being honest and shows integrety

Hahahaha, im crying from laughter. Thats why he bragged about it proudly ,right?

Also he has so much integrity that after he self snitched multiple times ,now he tries to deny everything and just says that all of that was just a character. - thats a peak of integrity for ya

[something_else]

11 hours ago, Florian said:

Ye, it's obvious you can't see the good he brought. Because you are out of touch with reality. The world is still mostly a shithole. In the western countrys this situation has changed a bit recently but that also made the men in the following generations (the ones we have now) grow up in a relatively soft environment which made them relatively weak. Now I believe the reason why god gave Tate his moment is because Tate is the perfect man to show these men how to deal with the shithole reality that is still looming outside their relatively save homes. I don't even like Tate, I find him annoying and obnoxious btw and if he did shit things I'm sure he will get his shit reward for it but I still think that he did bring what is needed for good to find it's place in this world. You guys just can't appreciate the beauty in his dirty work. And also I saw many people here make fun about him confessing to his scams and crimes on video, saying he is just so narcisstic and dumb. Would you think higher of him if he didn't do that and you were just unaware of his crimes? Guess what, he is being honest and shows integrety. Cause integrety doesnt necessarily mean high values. It just means strength in your values. Not the highest form of integrety, sure, but still an upgrade to the average of the world in it's current state.

You make a fair point and I do understand where you are coming from.

You want young guys to have a strong man as a role model, and I agree that is something younger guys lack in the 21st century. But Tate actually strikes me as more of an insecure and narcissistic man-baby than a strong man. I don’t think he is the saviour you want him to be.

He is also not being honest and showing integrity when he talks about his crimes either. He is showing off.

There are better masculine roles models out there than Tate.

Edited August 15, 2023 by something_else

[Danioover9000]

@UnbornTao

13 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Is this thread getting somewhere?

   Honestly this thread has died a week ago, and now it's just getting derailed, still talking about Tates in some way but in conjunction to other themes like politics, sports, porn, and so on, and those other ideas becoming more emphasized on. Seems like what's considered derailing the thread is evolving.

[something_else]

14 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Is this thread getting somewhere?

It's being treated like a catch-all for Tate related discussion. Better than having a bunch of different Tate threads polluting the forum IMO.

Also a lot of the sources posted by @Bobby_2021 here are very good too.

[Bobby_2021]

15 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Is this thread getting somewhere?

Where do you want this thread to go?

This thread is for covering the legal aspects of the Tate case, evidence, his statements and it's future course. 

If you don't discuss facts here, then the default case is someone spreading disinformation from Tate which are nothing but embarrassing lies. 

This thread is far from dead. If you really understood this, it's only beginning since the investigation isn't even over. More serious charges are pending. Perhaps this thread will be dead when they are convicted.Which is my speculation after looking at the case.

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Talking about Trump isn't a derailment. They are members of the Tate camp, aka the Far right.

Even the supposed right wing but non Trump supporters have shunned Tate. This includes the people covering the case. They are not left wing, but surprisingly right wing. The left camp is still triggered about his misogyny statements lol. That's a distraction since he did far more heinous things which are not even known outside. 

Edited August 15, 2023 by Bobby_2021

[Yulduz]

 

[Florian]

12 hours ago, zurew said:

Hahahaha, im crying from laughter. Thats why he bragged about it proudly ,right?

Also he has so much integrity that after he self snitched multiple times ,now he tries to deny everything and just says that all of that was just a character. - thats a peak of integrity for ya

Obviously not peak of integrety but a form of integrety yes

[ZzzleepingBear]

This seems like a prime example of a good thread imo, and @Bobby_2021 does a great job keeping it that way. It has already been said. But it's a case in progress.

[Florian]

10 hours ago, something_else said:

I don’t think he is the saviour you want him to be.

I don't want him to be a saviour. I don't consume his content except for videos that were force fed to me on YouTube. I don't know if I gained any actual value from that but I was wondering why the fuck he got so famous and what I described above is what my conclusion was. Personally I don't really care about him except finding him annoying but at the same time having some type of respect for him. 

 

10 hours ago, something_else said:

There are better masculine roles models out there than Tate.

Then why are they not as famous as Tate? Because they are propably advanced for the grand masses.

[zurew]

19 minutes ago, Florian said:

Obviously not peak of integrety but a form of integrety yes

17 hours ago, Florian said:

Guess what, he is being honest and shows integrety

I will give you this : he is charismatic and can be really funny sometimes

[Consept]

33 minutes ago, Florian said:

Obviously not peak of integrety but a form of integrety yes

If it was integrity, he would stand behind what he's saying now instead of denying it or claiming it was 10 years ago or that it was only helping girls with silly tiktok videos. He said the things he said before because he probably didn't think he was doing anything illegal or if he was he wasn't famous enough for anyone to care. 

Aside from that he lies all the time, everything from being a chess champion, which was checked and didn't happen, to how much money he has, he claimed a billion when the feds only found 10 mill in cash and assets (although he could be hiding money). 

He is charismatic and can be funny but that's about it, integrity isn't his strong point

[Recursoinominado]

3 hours ago, Yulduz said:

 

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[Florian]

5 hours ago, Consept said:

If it was integrity, he would stand behind what he's saying now instead of denying it or claiming it was 10 years ago or that it was only helping girls with silly tiktok videos. He said the things he said before because he probably didn't think he was doing anything illegal or if he was he wasn't famous enough for anyone to care. 

Aside from that he lies all the time, everything from being a chess champion, which was checked and didn't happen, to how much money he has, he claimed a billion when the feds only found 10 mill in cash and assets (although he could be hiding money). 

He is charismatic and can be funny but that's about it, integrity isn't his strong point

He isn't teaching high values but survival so in that sense I think there is a certain integrety to him.

[Danioover9000]

   Is there anything else new about this situation of the Tate brothers? If not then this thread needs to rest in piece, beating a dead horse is animal abuse.

[Consept]

 

Actually found this quite interesting, Tate sits with a psycho-analyst who actually pushes him on a few things. 

Im only an hour in but around 40 min Tate talks about how he doesn't believe that if people show emotions its real, he sees it as a way to manipulate people because if he were to show emotions he would be manipulating others. He was also pushed on the men he manipulated but he rationalises it by saying, someone would've manipulated them if not him, then kind of catches himself and says he helped them because they were lonely and so gave them a "girlfriend". 

Generally what I get from it and the analyst brought it up, is that he's able to twist things and take control of the narrative even within the conversation. Interested to know others thoughts 

[Danioover9000]

@Consept

29 minutes ago, Consept said:

 

Actually found this quite interesting, Tate sits with a psycho-analyst who actually pushes him on a few things. 

Im only an hour in but around 40 min Tate talks about how he doesn't believe that if people show emotions its real, he sees it as a way to manipulate people because if he were to show emotions he would be manipulating others. He was also pushed on the men he manipulated but he rationalises it by saying, someone would've manipulated them if not him, then kind of catches himself and says he helped them because they were lonely and so gave them a "girlfriend". 

Generally what I get from it and the analyst brought it up, is that he's able to twist things and take control of the narrative even within the conversation. Interested to know others thoughts 

   DAMN! That's so many adverts in that video that I almost didn't want to watch. Too many ads is too many ads.

[Consept]

@Danioover9000

Dunno bro, i got premium 

[hyruga]

Whether they end up in prison or not is none of my concern even though I do like some of Tates' teaching. Learn to focus on your own path and be aware of distractions.