The Closer you are on the Schizophrenia Spectrum the Harder it is to see Simplicity

[Carl-Richard]

9 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Autism has nothing to do with schizophrenia. Schizophrenia has nothing to do with a simple view of life or not. Besides, that doesn't mean anything.

"Psychosis and autism as diametrical disorders of the social brain". Bernard Crespi, Christopher Badcock. Behavioral and brain sciences 31(3), 241-261, 2008.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=no&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=autism+psychosis+spectrum&oq=autism-psychosis#d=gs_qabs&t=1689416439830&u=%23p%3DURfcprLvG-QJ

[Buck Edwards]

@Carl-Richard is it possible for a person to become schizophrenic after extended use of psychedelics? 

[Carl-Richard]

25 minutes ago, Enlightement said:

@Carl-Richard is it possible for a person to become schizophrenic after extended use of psychedelics? 

Schizophrenia develops due to a confluence of environmental and genetic factors. Psychedelics may serve as an environmental stressor that can trigger the development of schizophrenia, but that doesn't mean that everybody who does psychedelics will develop schizophrenia. If that was the case, Leo would be schizophrenic by now, but he is not. People with schizophrenia (the psychiatric diagnosis) have severe problems with logical thinking and general daily functioning. You can also talk about schizophrenia as a dispositional trait (not the psychiatric diagnosis), where you have varying degrees of schizophrenic-like traits, but not necessarily severe problems with daily functioning, and this relates to the autism-psychosis spectrum in the paper that I linked in the previous post.

Edited July 15, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[integral]

@Enlightement What i mean by simplicity is ones ability to narrow down and make sense of complexity. The more complexity your able to resolve in ones mind the simpler it all gets. A schizo struggles to narrow down the complexity and cant bring it all together, they get stuck building it up adding more complexity on top of what is already a model that is unorganized or unprocessed.

Someone can have a mind that floods them with many connections or a mind that makes very few connections. In both cases what determines simplicity is how effective one is at simplifying the complexity by processing it and bringing it all together. A schizo has a mind that generates many connections with very poor capacity to process it into a coherent model or reality. While autism is really really good at narrowing down complexity into coherence.

The average person is somewhere in the middle they are average at connection making and average at processing it. 

What you said earlier that when your calm things feel simple and when your stressed things feel chaotic is a good example of this, when calm complexity is processed efficiently while stressed ones ability to do so is compromised. Also the type of connections being made changes (baised).

To see the simplicity of life the complexity needs to be processed wisely, that usually ends up involving deconstruction at the higher stages and what you get is an experience of profound simplicity all possible by infinite complexity. 

Simplicity is complexity in coherence. When you finally grasp some hard topic youve been working on for a while suddenly its so simple! 

Edited July 15, 2023 by integral