Andrew Tate: there are no good / bad guys in wars

[Leo Gura]

"There is no good or bad guys, but Muslims and Mexicans are dirty and bad." -- Cucker Tarlson.

Edited July 13, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Tanz]

38 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

I am not talking about that I am just talking about the talking points that he uses are sometimes correct. I dont care how he makes his money why would I 

Im making a point about how he's using people's frustrations and using them for his own benefit.  How he makes money is an example of what kind of person he is.  

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Twentyfirst said:

Women are dominating men but nobody wants to admit it. And no not all women but most. Not all men but most

That's just not true. You're living in a fantasy.

I doubt you've even been deeply intimate with one woman. So you're just speculating.

I promise you that your view of women is false, badly distorted by your biases and social media consumption.

I've talked to over 5000 women, so I am not speculating. I have very wide experience with women and I know how they operate very well.

Edited July 13, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's just not true. You're living in a fantasy.

I doubt you've even been deeply intimate with one woman. So you're just speculating.

I promise you that your view of women is false, badly distorted by your biases and social media consumption.

I've talked to over 5000 women, so I am not speculating. I have very wide experience with women and I know how they operate very well.

Tell him Leo! But when did you start counting.?

Edited July 13, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Twentyfirst]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's just not true. You're living in a fantasy.

I doubt you've even been deeply intimate with one woman. So you're just speculating.

I promise you that your view of women is false, badly distorted by your biases and social media consumption.

I've talked to over 5000 women, so I am not speculating. I have very wide experience with women and I know how they operate very well.

If you don't stand your ground with women they will walk all over you. Just like anyone else will. Nice guys finish last or not at all

I hope you are right though 

[hoodrow trillson]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Why does Andrew Tate seems to always make his rounds on this forum . Like the nagging mother-in-law, cant seem to get rid of him. Like the guest that never leaves. Like Donald Trump. They just seem to just always be there. Wherever you go. Like my friggin' shadow, like Dear Uncle Charles the drunk uncle, like the one bitch in the room or the one pervert that never quits, like the whimpering dog and the buzzing fly or the bedazzling wasp heading for your tits. Why. What did I do to deserve this, God. Everytime when I think ok Andrew Tate has left the room, here he comes again. Even after prison sentence, on death row, he still manages to appear outta nowhere from Poland right here in Forumland miles away. Can we get another incel role model around here, maybe he'll shake things up a bit and get the ball a rolling.

There’s guys on here that suck with women, have never been with one without paying or got totally rejected — so they resort to this guy as a father figure and that’s where he sinks his claws into these guys.  That’s basically the gist of it.
 

 

 

[Leo Gura]

37 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

But when did you start counting.?

From day one. But after about 2500 I got tired and stopped counting.

32 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

If you don't stand your ground with women they will walk all over you. Just like anyone else will. Nice guys finish last or not at all

You got a lot of negative, limiting beliefs about women which will make it impossible for you to have a health relationship with them.

Sadly you are only shooting yourself in the foot here.

Setting boundaries with women is a given thing you will do. There is no need to posture or flex about it, or turn it into anything political. You are politicizing women. The vast majority of women are simply apolitical and don't care about politics at all. I can count on one hand the number of times of those 5000 women where we talked or disagreed about politics.

One of your biggest mistakes in all this is that you fundamentally don't respect women.

Edited July 13, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Twentyfirst]

1 hour ago, hoodrow trillson said:

There’s guys on here that suck with women, have never been with one without paying or got totally rejected — so they resort to this guy as a father figure and that’s where he sinks his claws into these guys.  That’s basically the gist of it.
 

 

 

The incel argument. Brilliant

[Twentyfirst]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

From day one. But after about 2500 I got tired and stopped counting.

You got a lot of negative, limiting beliefs about women which will make it impossible for you to have a health relationship with them.

Sadly you are only shooting yourself in the foot here.

Setting boundaries with women is a given thing you will do. There is no need to posture or flex about it, or turn it into anything political. You are politicizing women. The vast majority of women are simply apolitical and don't care about politics at all. I can count on one hand the number of times of those 5000 women where we talked or disagreed about politics.

One of your biggest mistakes in all this is that you fundamentally don't respect women.

There have been only few women that have earned my respect. But I tend to avoid low quality people not just women but men too. I just want to make sure I don't get taken advantage of and I can experience the best a woman has to offer 

[Bobby_2021]

9 hours ago, StarStruck said:

He recently converted to Islam so definitely SD blue but imo SD stages don’t fit him. 

As if Islam allows him to sell pimp courses, smoke and consume alcohol and tattoos. ? All these are explicitly banner in Islam. He never cares about being religious. 

He is running a show and you fell for it. This is the experience of a close associate of Tate.

He doesn't stand up to his own morals on free speech/censorship or even religious morality. It's all empty words. 

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

"There is no good or bad guys, but Muslims and Mexicans are dirty and bad." -- Cucker Tarlson.

? That's some good humour. 

[Leo Gura]

51 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

I just want to make sure I don't get taken advantage of and I can experience the best a woman has to offer 

Your mind is focused on the wrong things. Negative, disempowering things.

[something_else]

55 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

There have been only few women that have earned my respect.

I have met several men who adopt this faux-picky attitude when they aren’t getting the results they want with woman.

It sounds like a mindset you are using to soothe-your ego, perhaps.

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I just want to make sure I don't get taken advantage of and I can experience the best a woman has to offer 

Good relationships take practice. Your first few are rarely great.

This sounds like another ego soothe. “I’m holding off on all woman until I find the perfect one” — well, it’s actually quite hard to find the perfect woman for you if you don’t have experience with at least some who aren’t perfect for you first.

Edited July 13, 2023 by something_else

[Twentyfirst]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Your mind is focused on the wrong things. Negative, disempowering things.

I will refocus

Thanks

[StarStruck]

@Princess Arabia because he is a genius

[mr_engineer]

@Leo Gura I understand why you're waging a PR-war against Tate. 

Having said that, do you know why Tate is so popular? If you could give a steel-manned answer, that would be nice. Then we could actually have a constructive discussion and arrive at a solution. 

[Karmadhi]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You need to let go of this bad idea that you should boss women around. That's not a desirable thing even of the women would tolerate it, which of course she won't.

You have literally said in posts about "can i get girls younger than me if i am on my 50s" or something that women wont care for your age or looks as long as you are boss. "Women are looking for boss". Then you give us your pakistani short friend as an example of a short guy doing well with girls.

When people hear it, they assume they need to be bossy to get girls attracted to them. Maybe that is not what you meant but it is very easy to misinterpret. 

I am sure that in a relationship that is not the case but initially you yourself have said being boss is very important. 

[something_else]

39 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

You have literally said in posts about "can i get girls younger than me if i am on my 50s" or something that women wont care for your age or looks as long as you are boss. "Women are looking for boss". Then you give us your pakistani short friend as an example of a short guy doing well with girls.

When people hear it, they assume they need to be bossy to get girls attracted to them. Maybe that is not what you meant but it is very easy to misinterpret. 

I am sure that in a relationship that is not the case but initially you yourself have said being boss is very important. 

I get how it can be misinterpreted.

Though I think it's more that women like good leaders. And good leaders aren't usually that bossy. Instead good leaders have a way of making you want to follow them, instead of having to use aggression/force/bossiness to make you follow them.

I think that kind of leadership is what women really find attractive.

[StarStruck]

@Leo Gura  the division of reality between good and bad is a stable of SD blue, Andrew doesn't do that as he explains in the video, so he doesn't fit in SD blue ethics completely.

[Tanz]

1 hour ago, mr_engineer said:

Having said that, do you know why Tate is so popular? If you could give a steel-manned answer, that would be nice. Then we could actually have a constructive discussion and arrive at a solution. 

Th men that like him they feel he is the voice for the unheard, unloved parts of their psyche.  In the deepest part of their souls, they want to be loud and "rich" like him and not feel sorry to be like that.  
There are a lot more intelligent and compassionate voices to address these men but they are not willing to actually do the work themselves so they consider Tate a quick solution for their shortcomings.  

Its not hard to create a movement around people's insecurities, all you have to do is identify the group that feels oppressed and make that your campaign. Here are some examples that could work.  
"I'm not sorry for being a white man"

"I'm sorry for being born a man"
"I'm white"
"The Oppressed Vagina"
"I don't want your dick"
"Trans are people too"  
"I'm not my dick"  

Tate's identified a problem and created an adversary   

People love falling for narcissists.  AOC, Trump, Tate, Obama, Don Lemon, Tucker Carlson, and fictional characters like Tony Stark "Iron Man", and Dr. Strange.  They all have something in common, an unshakable belief of self-importance.    

Edited July 13, 2023 by Tanz

[Jacob Morres]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

"There is no good or bad guys, but Muslims and Mexicans are dirty and bad." -- Cucker Tarlson.

baffled people like this exist