Do girls have their guard up with men?

[Jacob Morres]

I feel like when I talk to a guy I tend to get significantly better responses than when I talk to women, even when they're both platonic 

With men, I feel like there's usually a comrodarie I feel. Conversations are nice, fluid, sometimes they'll even carry the conversation 

But with women - they dont try simalarily. If i dont put decent effort, I don't get that same response. 

Is it because I'm a man and they're intimidated? I don't get it. I feel like I have to almost prove myself first. It's weird 

Does anyone else experience this? 

Edited July 9, 2023 by Jacob Morres

[Epikur]

37 minutes ago, Jacob Morres said:

I feel like when I talk to a guy I tend to get significantly better responses than when I talk to women, even when they're both platonic 

With men, I feel like there's usually a comrodarie I feel. Conversations are nice, fluid, sometimes they'll even carry the conversation 

But with women - they dont try simalarily. If i dont put decent effort, I don't get that same response. 

Is it because I'm a man and they're intimidated? I don't get it. I feel like I have to almost prove myself first. It's weird 

Does anyone else experience this? 

Seems like you are new to the party
 

 

[supremeyingyang]

51 minutes ago, Jacob Morres said:

Does anyone else experience this? 

Of course, you have to appear safe and interesting. I just assume that you don't want to harm anyone (haha), so the thing is how you project that? You socialize a lot, without wanting something immediately beside communication.

Go to places you like regularly, over time you get familiar with other people who go there. I for example go 4 times a week to a nearby forest and it's becoming a scene of people I'd never normally talk to. People much older (50-80+) or younger (0-20), people with dogs, women riding horses, people enjoying nature and collecting food in the forest like berries of mushrooms... over time you meet organically women you like. It's much more rewarding to me, even though it's indirect and takes longer. But if you 'get a match' it's usually a pretty good one. You need do find out what it is for you - the Gym, a Club, a inner City place, concerts at a certain place, nature...

Cuz chances are you sit on your computer and phone too much which makes you too weird IRL and the women feel rightfully repelled by it. It's a feature, not a bug. You have growth to do and then you get girls as a bonus among other things)

Edited July 9, 2023 by supremeyingyang

[Raze]

Yes. There are a lot of men who are very socially isolated so if a girl is nice to them sometimes they get clingy and think she likes them so girls will be icy with new men at first. If you wear a wedding ring or drop that you’re in a relationship it will reduce a little.

Edited July 9, 2023 by Raze

[Tenebroso]

Most men are invisible to women, they don't really see you, you either blend in or don't exist.

[Jacob Morres]

 

12 hours ago, supremeyingyang said:

Cuz chances are you sit on your computer and phone too much which makes you too weird IRL and the women feel rightfully repelled by it. It's a feature, not a bug.

Yeah that makes sense. Past few months I've been more isolated so I'm rusty.

I was just shocked ig bc even *platonically* the difference was like standard deviations different ?

 

Though the silver lining is when I'm in the zone I get great responses 

Edited July 9, 2023 by Jacob Morres

[NoSelfSelf]

Because she doesnt trust you,there must be period of time to figure out who you are because you could be some creep,there are guys who get angry,they could be a stalker,psychopat so she must be careful.

If you show man behaviour that trust is faster if you show mixed behaviour it takes alot longer...

[vishnusavestheday]

“Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.”

― Margaret Atwood

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

14 hours ago, Jacob Morres said:

I feel like when I talk to a guy I tend to get significantly better responses than when I talk to women, even when they're both platonic 

With men, I feel like there's usually a comrodarie I feel. Conversations are nice, fluid, sometimes they'll even carry the conversation 

But with women - they dont try simalarily. If i dont put decent effort, I don't get that same response. 

Is it because I'm a man and they're intimidated? I don't get it. I feel like I have to almost prove myself first. It's weird 

Does anyone else experience this? 

Women will make out with each other and partake within sexual acts way before making a guy even a consideration. Just life.

Edited July 9, 2023 by MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI

[ThermalTide]

I would say yes, generally speaking, women have their guard up more these days. Social media has put the gross tendencies of everyone on display and its being fed into our brains 24/7. While I don't think all men are sexually predatory, I also don't know any women who haven't experienced extremely bizarre and aggressive behavior from dudes at some point in their life. For a lot of them, its pretty often. I think the proliferation of porn and whatnot has had a really bad effect on men and it has lead us to some pretty gnarly points as a society. My male friends in my age range (late 20s) are generally pretty meek and depressed. They spend a lot of time in sedentary positions, they fap a lot, they're pretty purposeless and lost, and they don't really get any pussy, at all. It's really unfortunate and something that troubles and fascinates me a lot. I think it bodes grim shit for real. Of course, not every dude is like this, but I'd argue that its common enough in younger people especially that we should discuss this issue more and hopefully figure out how we can fix ourselves. 

To clarify, I don't think at all that this phenomenon is strictly mens fault at all, its an American culture as a wholes problem, likewise it'll take changes from men and women both to put an end to this soyboy death spiral

[mr_engineer]

There are women in the New-Age community who operate from a space of love as opposed to a space of fear. I'd suggest you work with those women. 

This whole thing of 'having your guard up' is the opposite of being a loving human being. It's not personal on their part, they just don't care about relationships that much. Their style of relating is narcissistic. Pointless to even try to make anything work with them. You want to go for women who have a more open energy. 

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

2 hours ago, mr_engineer said:

There are women in the New-Age community who operate from a space of love as opposed to a space of fear. I'd suggest you work with those women. 

This whole thing of 'having your guard up' is the opposite of being a loving human being. It's not personal on their part, they just don't care about relationships that much. Their style of relating is narcissistic. Pointless to even try to make anything work with them. You want to go for women who have a more open energy. 

• Becoming a new-ager doesn't release one from its present existence as a women. 
• Heterosexual Women predominantly value, and prioritize having relations with others. 
• Temoerature is king. If she's hot she is a narcissist.
• Q. Where does one physically find these so called "new-age women" aside from social media? 

Edited July 10, 2023 by MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI

[Tenebroso]

I don't think new age women are any less narcissistic in this era. Modern life encourages a toxic relating style and overpowers any apparent self-development. The most narcissistic men do the best with women all types of women including new age types.

[mr_engineer]

35 minutes ago, Tenebroso said:

The most narcissistic men do the best with women all types of women including new age types.

The new age types at least see this as a problem and are doing something about it, actively. They're not out there demonizing all men and saying that 'all men are toxic' and 'I want to be a strong and independent woman'. They have actual wisdom relative to values like 'love' and 'intimacy' and 'compassion'. They are in the active practice of embodying their femininity and allowing men to be in their masculine. 

This whole thing of 'keeping your guard up' is a control-tactic designed to emasculate modern men. You cannot be masculine and move forward with such women, they don't want you to be masculine. So, let them go. And go for someone who has some real education relative to masculinity and femininity, who's actually doing their homework. 

1 hour ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

Q. Where does one physically find these so called "new-age women" aside from social media? 

At New-Age events, at New-Age retreats. 

Edited July 10, 2023 by mr_engineer

[Jacob Morres]

 

10 hours ago, mr_engineer said:

Pointless to even try to make anything work with them. You want to go for women who have a more open energy. 

I think the same thing. Such a women is like needle in a haystack 

I'll be deadass. I've not a met women like this in a long while 

Respectfully tho new age women probably generally support the women being independent 

Edited July 11, 2023 by Jacob Morres

[Basman]

Women in general tend to be more fearful than men. There is a bunch of research and articles on it if you look it up. Fearfulness and being withdrawn is tied to a certain extent to physical strength and women are generally smaller and weaker than men. 

You can imagine yourself standing next a 1000kg male bull. The size difference can excastebates timidness and the need for security.

[Emotionalmosquito]

On 7/9/2023 at 5:05 AM, supremeyingyang said:

You have growth to do and then you get girls as a bonus among other things)

I could not give any less of a fuck about the other things. I just want the girls and that’s it. But apparently that’s way too much to ask. 

On 7/9/2023 at 5:05 AM, supremeyingyang said:

Go to places you like regularly

 

On 7/9/2023 at 5:05 AM, supremeyingyang said:

over time you meet organically women you like

There’s a popular nature area by where I dwell. It’s pretty big with lots of sections to explore and trails to walk and places to swim. I’ve been there probably a thousand times and I’ve only met a handful of girls and only one gave me the number and she ended up ghosting me like every single girl does. How exactly am I supposed to “organically meet women I like”? It literally does not happen unless I absolutely force it to.

On 7/9/2023 at 5:25 PM, vishnusavestheday said:

Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.”

 

I always hated that quote because it downplays our struggle. We may not have to fear women killing us but they sure can do a hell of a lot worse than laughing at us. Besides, how common is it really for a guy to murder the girl he’s talking to?

[Jacob Morres]

1 minute ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

I always hated that quote because it downplays our struggle

Yeah it does sound a bit invalidating tbf

[Emotionalmosquito]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

Fearfulness and being withdrawn is tied to a certain extent to physical strength and women are generally smaller and weaker than men. 

 

What’s interesting about that is women are attracted to muscle tone on men. They like to feel small in your arms and protected and stuff. Yet it also makes them afraid of you? Hmmm ?

 

[mr_engineer]

4 hours ago, Jacob Morres said:

Respectfully tho new age women probably generally support the women being independent 

The only women I've seen speaking up against this trend of 'independence' are the new age women. Only they're promoting the idea of 'interdependence', which is why they're able to speak up against the trend. 

If you want to know whether she understands femininity or not, simply look at how open her energy is. If she has her guard up, that's the biggest red-flag of all time.