Antidote to insanity

[Someone here]

I recently been contemplating  insanity..  in my experience the border between sanity and insanity is crossed when I lose the ability to discern what is true and what Is false. 

Insanity is nothing but deviation from consensus about the way "objective reality" is. 

If someone says "the earth is flat" he goes against that consensus. Crazy.

If someone says "I can talk to dead people" he deviates from that consensus. Nuthead...

If someone says "I'm God and so are you" he acts subversively towards "objective reality". Crucify him

etc...

All these statements have the same overarching theme: "there is no objective reality"

And this goes against absolutely everything.  so society responds "well..we can't let that happen... this is threatening the survival of every idea and identity of each and everyone who plays our game. What are we to do with such people? Ostracize them..Ridicule them..Put them  away in the insane asylum. 

For example this video of Leo might cause you to become insane if you actually allowed what Leo is saying to sink in . The idea that YOU will experience EVERYTHING. Every single possibility that could ever possibly exist .

I guess Leo doesn't believe in this anymore because he now claims that only direct experience is true and everything else is just concepts .

Think back to the last time when you felt very nauseous or were badly sick.. note that feeling..and note your unwillingness to be in that state.

Now think back to the last time you were enjoying a chocolate bar..or watching a  porn movie you liked..and note your willingness to be in the state.

This is a burning question for me? Why is one easy..and why is one hard? Why not the other way round? All we know as a human.. For literally NO REASON. one sucks. One is not easy. All reasoning to why pain sucks is bullshit. This is DEAD SERIOUS business.

To get out of insanity you must carve a distinction between what is ACTUAL and what Is CONCEPTUAL.  Insanity only exists in your mind and your mental fantasy. Direct experience is always true and your thoughts about what might it be or what might happen in the future is never true .

 

 

Edited July 7, 2023 by Someone here

[tuku747]

 

What's coming through is alive
What's holding up is a mirror
But what's singing songs is a snake
And it's lookin' to turn my piss to wine

They're both totally void of hate
And killin' me just the same

The snake behind me hisses
What my damage could have been
My blood before me begs me
Open up my heart again

And I feel this coming over like a storm again
Considerately

Venomous voice, tempts me
Drains me, bleeds me
Leaves me, cracked and empty
Drags me down like some sweet gravity

The snake behind me hisses
What my damage could have been
My blood before me begs me
Open up my heart again

And I feel this coming over like a storm again, now
And I feel this coming over like a storm again, now

I am too connected to you
To slip away, to fade away
Days away, I still feel you
Touching me, changing me

Considerately killing me
Considerately killing me

Without the skin, here
Beneath the storm
Under these tears, now
The walls came down

Once the snake is drowned
And as I look in his eyes
My fear begins to fade
Recalling all of the times

I could have cried then
I should have cried then

As the walls come down
And as I look in your eyes
My fear begins to fade
Recalling all of the times

I have died
And will die

It's alright

I don't mind
I don't mind
I don't mind

Edited July 8, 2023 by tuku747

[Breakingthewall]

true insanity occurs in wounded people, who cannot face their wounds and create a kind of mental bypass to avoid what is impossible for them to assimilate. It does not mean that his vision is wrong compared to other correct visions, but that it is a subterfuge. 

[Someone here]

@Breakingthewall have you tripped on Salvia before?  They say it's pure insanity. 

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Breakingthewall have you tripped on Salvia before?  They say it's pure insanity. 

I did twice, but I wouldn't say that's insanity. It is strange, unpleasant, intimidating, but sane in the sense that it is what it is. if reality crumbles into cubes, while the scream of a demon is heard in the background, that is reality. for me insanity is the need to imagine that you are persecuted by the cia, or that you are the chosen one, or any other story, because you cannot bear reality.

Edited July 8, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Someone here]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I did twice, but I wouldn't say that's insanity. It is strange, unpleasant, intimidating, but sane in the sense that it is what it is. if reality crumbles into cubes, while the scream of a demon is heard in the background, that is reality. for me insanity is the need to imagine that you are persecuted by the cia, or that you are the chosen one, or any other story, because you cannot bear reality.

Gotcha. 

Here's a Salvia trip report from one of our members here ..he post it a while ago ..see if you resonate with what he is saying :

it's absolutely ineffable. It tore me apart and reassembled me in the outer layers of infinity, and this kept happening forever, for all infinity. And when I say forever I mean forever. It showed me worlds that are so beyond this one that describing even the tiniest part could fill 500 books and not get even remotely close. It showed me all levels of existence, and then threw me out of them as if they're nothing. It's simply unimaginable, no words could come close, or touch this experience in any way imaginable. If you've ever done some psychedelic and broken through, multiply that by a million and it's still a tame experience in comparison. It breaks reality. This experience happened more than a decade ago and I'm still collecting the pieces. I honestly have no idea what the fuck happened. It's hard to talk about because while I faintly remember the experience, I just know I can't English it because it would be like trying to stick a fork into the moon.

I know this doesn't help much but I literally can't share the experience not because I don't want to but because it was out of this world and as such, unable to be mapped to any concept from this world. If you ask me, it was beyond even death. I was infinity, forever. How I ever found a way back to my body is a mystery. It was the weirdest thing that ever happened to me by a factor of one trillion.

This should go without saying but please do NOT take Salvia. I haven't benefited much from this experience, other than being shown that everyone is completely full of shit and nobody actually knows what's going on. If you're going to do psychedelics, take any "lesser" psychedelic, they are far easier to integrate. Even DMT, while I haven't done it, doesn't sound like it has the potency of Salvia. I've read hundreds of trip reports from DMT and not a single one mentioned being stuck in infinity or experiencing months or years in another world. Salvia CAN take you there. So can Datura. Stay away from those two.

[Breakingthewall]

@Someone here great report. 

[Yimpa]

Antidote to insanity:

SMASH IT!

[blackchair]

On 7/8/2023 at 0:09 PM, Breakingthewall said:

I did twice, but I wouldn't say that's insanity. It is strange, unpleasant, intimidating, but sane in the sense that it is what it is. if reality crumbles into cubes, while the scream of a demon is heard in the background, that is reality. for me insanity is the need to imagine that you are persecuted by the cia, or that you are the chosen one, or any other story, because you cannot bear reality.

but what IF cia is protecting me? am I'm still batshit crazy? or maybe it can be both?