A little bit about me (NOT leo)

[Someone here]

9 minutes ago, Ajax said:

Do you realize that it is practically impossible to make money or distribute philosophy without business and marketing? Other than being a wage slave professor, I mean.

I dont want to a professor in a college or university. I want to write books (I'm actually writing a book in the meantime) and share my thoughts with basically the whole world . Selling per thousandson Amazon etc.  For that I need a degree in philosophy.  I agree that I might need to take some classes in understanding how business work..but not to be my major field of study . 

9 minutes ago, Ajax said:

Otherwise, great. Keep up the good work. There is still much to explore but it seems like you are on the right track.Kudos

Thank you .

[Sincerity]

6 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

you fucking idiot. ?❤️?

Please don't push it.

[Yimpa]

This thread quickly turned into “a lot about me” 

[Breakingthewall]

24 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

How about I start screaming insults at you in the name of "shaking you up"? Not to brag, but I for one have zero ego, so if you feel offended, then that is your problem... you fucking idiot. ?❤️?

imo Leo's insults towards rivers occurred because the latter, lately, made mocking allusions to the "alien" issue. Leo has a big sensitive ego, ohhh. He's not the most balanced guy in the world. As a human, it might be quite difficult, but as a mystic, I think it's on another level. but that's just my belief. At least he's authentic... or maybe not and he's playing to the eccentric master?? Nah, I think he's . 

In another hand, I'd say that rivers don't catch Leo's essence, he thinks he's getting crazy, overdosing psychedelic, lack of integration, etc, when Leo is not interested in any integration, he just want to go deeper. Let's see where he's arriving. He's a pioneer. If you want to understand Leo a bit, you should understand 5 meo 

[Yimpa]

5 minutes ago, Vibes said:

Don't you think you can learn more from Leo (about yourself)? Or are you done?

Ultimately, the point is to learn from all of reality. 

When you expand your sense of Self, the Leo character becomes a grain of salt in an infinite sea of McDonald’s.

[Yimpa]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

If you want to understand Leo a bit, you should understand 5 meo 

I personally didn’t need to take any 5 meo to understand 5 meo or Leo.

[Breakingthewall]

20 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

I personally didn’t need to take any 5 meo to understand 5 meo or Leo.

Maybe it's impossible to understand where is  Leo now, just possible to understand what he's doing

[Yimpa]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Maybe it's impossible to understand where is  Leo now, just possible to understand what he's doing

And who says you have to understand where Leo is or what he’s doing? Notice how life unfolds wonderfully when we allow whatever beauty to present itself without biases. 

It’s possible to experience Breakingthewall as equal to Leo or any other character. But that takes a serious amount of LOVE, which is beyond quality or quantity. 

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

And who says you have to understand where Leo is or what he’s doing?

Just because I like to understand things

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Just because I like to understand things

Me too 

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Yimpa said:

Me too 

I've come to the realization that the mind can only understand things from its level of consciousness and is perceiving what it's trying to understand from the level of that state. I'm also understanding that the mind is incapable of understanding anything, it just thinks it understands until something else pops up that disputes the previous understanding and now it has to try to re-understand what it thought it understood, so it can understand what it understood from another level of understanding........understand? I don't. That's just the mind trying to understand what I'm trying to say, so it's process of trying to understand what I'm saying is futile because the mind understands it doesn't understand anything beyond it's own comprehensive capabilities. Don't ask me to explain what I just said because my state of consciousness is now different and is at a different level than when I wrote it. Understand?...dont mind me. My awareness is tripping.

Edited July 6, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Jowblob]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I've come to the realization that the mind can only understand things from its level of consciousness and is perceiving what it's trying to understand from the level of that state. I'm also understanding that the mind is incapable of understanding anything, it just thinks it understands until something else pops up that disputes the previous understanding and now it has to try to re-understand what it thought it understood, so it can understand what it understood from another level of understanding........understand? I don't. That's just the mind trying to understand what I'm trying to say, so it's process of trying to understand what I'm saying is futile because the mind understands it doesn't understand anything beyond it's own comprehensive capabilities. Don't ask me to explain what I just said because my state of consciousness is now different and is at a different level than when I wrote it. Understand?...dont mind me. My awareness is tripping.

Yup and that is why we have no free will, everything is given by god. All your life and others is nothing more then a construct, the day will come when you will be liberated and you start understanding that you were all alone in this and not only did you construct your life but also life of others.

Edited July 6, 2023 by Jowblob

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

1 hour ago, Sincerity said:

Please don't push it.

Heh... sorry, couldn't resist the temptation of channeling His Divine Unholiness for a second. I'll behave now.

1 hour ago, Vibes said:

Don't you think you can learn more from Leo (about yourself)? Or are you done?

One of the reasons why I am (still) attracted to this forum is because engaging in this whole ludicrous clownshow - hence my profile pic - is an excellent shadow work exercise; it's like one of those funhouse mirrors that shows you a bizzare and magnified image of your own BS. Which doesn't mean that it doesn't deserve to be pointed out and made fun of, lest you drown in your own doo doo.

And of course, Leo's ramblings are a daily reminder that I should never go overboard with psychedelics and always keep my spiritual ego in check. So yes, I owe him a lot of gratitude for that.

Praise be!

[not-a-faerie]

two things important to see

1. everyone has learned something, and fighting to convince them they're wrong is clinging to your own system of beliefs as if you know better, when there are infinite relative truths to debate about. 

2. low consciousness is not an absolute existence that you discard when you have enlightenment, that you once were low and now you are high and that is that it's done there's no more. Enlightenment is not an obtainable achievement you wear on your shoulder, it is a process of transcending previous beliefs, states, assumptions, etc. 

 

 

and to the op specifically, I want to reiterate that a lack of beliefs is a belief system. I don't really have the words or skill to argue this point, but would recommend that you reflect on it. You said yourself at one point that sure, you will hold onto beliefs that eating food will x y z, but then that showed me that you aren't seeing that simply by understanding a single thing we understand, is a system. whether or not it is belief is irrelevant, it is a structure that we hold onto. holding no beliefs is such a structure. furthermore, you fundamentally must believe that it is better to hold no beliefs in order to practice holding no beliefs and then state it as good on a forum for others to read. 

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Jowblob said:

@Sincerity I've seen a lot of mods including Leo insult people with worst possible things, then i call someone low conscious because he called me pussy and i get post restricted by a moron that keeps targeting me. It's a shame that the mods and administrator aren't even righteous themselves but they enforce it when somebody else does it. Oh well, there is karma for every detail.

 

And i'm not the only one that sees it , there are plenty of people in private message that agree with me. We just all agree that Leo doesn't care about his forum anymore, probably just wants to sell some courses...

If Leo's aim was just to sell courses, he'd be pushing out courses from left to right and charging an arm and a leg for them. How you perceive what is happening on the forum is not what's happening on the forum. What's happening on the forum is just happening. It is up to us independently to interpret the experience accordingly. We're all not seeing it the same way, so whatever your interpretation is, it is not the truth only a perception of the truth, which can change at any time. 

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

the mind understands it doesn't understand anything beyond it's own comprehensive capabilities

the mind can understand everything, since the mind is existence. everything is mind, and its capacity for understanding is unlimited, but for this to be so, limitations must be dissolved

[Sincerity]

5 hours ago, Jowblob said:

and i get post restricted by a moron that keeps targeting me.

Replying to a post talking about not tolerating namecalling... with namecalling.

Outstanding move. 

5 hours ago, Vibes said:

Practically speaking, have you noticed an increase in people talking more aggressively like Leo?

I have.

5 hours ago, Vibes said:

Also, what is the serious harm in this?

I don't think You'd want to participate in a community where most people would talk like this. ?‍♂️

Edited July 6, 2023 by Sincerity

[Princess Arabia]

36 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

the mind can understand everything, since the mind is existence. everything is mind, and its capacity for understanding is unlimited, but for this to be so, limitations must be dissolved

Depending on which part of mind, the conscious mind or the subconscious mind. The conscious mind, which is responsible for reason and logic is limited but the subconscious mind is unlimited and knows no boundaries. The subconscious mind, which is the womb of creation, gets penetrated by the conscious mind and then births out whatever was stored within it, which in turn creates our experiences. 

[Jowblob]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

This is unconscious behavior, where people are mimicking like a bunch of monkeys. If we were conscious beings, we would think for ourselves and determine how we want to respond instead of how the mind tells us to respond. The mind is very impressionable and programmable and the situation here is showing us how vulnerable we are as humans when it comes to group think. We have a responsibility to adjust our own behavior and not blame how we act on how someone else behaves. This is why we need mods because things will spiral out of control because we are just puppets on strings waiting to get loose. 

The problem of your "thought" is thinking that there is a difference between "unconscious" and "conscious" thought. It's all gods dream and gods cosmic dance. This is god, telling you.

Edited July 6, 2023 by Jowblob

[Princess Arabia]

43 minutes ago, Jowblob said:

The problem of your "thought" is thinking that there is a difference between "unconscious" and "conscious" thought. It's all gods dream and gods cosmic dance. This is god, telling you.

I said unconscious behavior. Not unconscious thought. This is all Gods dream but God can also be in an unconscious state which will result in apparent unconscious behavior. There's no difference between anything, but language is dualistic, and the only way for me to communicate what I'm trying to say is for the mind to make a distinction between unconscious and conscious. That wasn't God telling me anything, that was God imagining telling me what I'm imagining reading. 

Edited July 6, 2023 by Princess Arabia